1 00:00:41,540 --> 00:00:37,750 [Music] 2 00:00:45,350 --> 00:00:41,550 this hope radio for the masses headliner 3 00:00:47,330 --> 00:00:45,360 between July 8 1947 here on the airport 4 00:00:49,160 --> 00:00:47,340 has announced that applying this has 5 00:00:51,770 --> 00:00:49,170 been found and is now in the possession 6 00:00:54,729 --> 00:00:51,780 of the army the game is rigged 7 00:00:57,579 --> 00:00:54,739 changed the game GameChanger I 8 00:01:01,880 --> 00:00:57,589 occasionally think how quickly our 9 00:01:04,549 --> 00:01:01,890 differences worldwide would vanish if we 10 00:01:07,730 --> 00:01:04,559 were facing an alien threat from outside 11 00:01:07,740 --> 00:01:11,140 [Applause] 12 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:13,660 fade to black with your host Jimmy 13 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:16,490 church on the GameChanger radio network 14 00:01:21,220 --> 00:01:19,370 and a GRA the global rain 15 00:01:23,130 --> 00:01:21,230 Alliance 16 00:01:34,010 --> 00:01:23,140 [Music] 17 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:34,020 you are listening to fade to black with 18 00:01:36,940 --> 00:01:36,210 Jimmy judge or the game change in that 19 00:01:45,780 --> 00:01:36,950 word 20 00:01:49,490 --> 00:01:45,790 [Music] 21 00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:52,800 fade to black 22 00:02:04,090 --> 00:02:01,130 the spoke radio masses 23 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:04,100 [Music] 24 00:02:13,020 --> 00:02:07,970 how you doing how you doing today is 25 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:13,030 Tuesday February 26 2009 26 00:02:19,660 --> 00:02:15,730 [Music] 27 00:02:20,230 --> 00:02:19,670 57 days into the new year just 308 days 28 00:02:21,980 --> 00:02:20,240 left 29 00:02:27,290 --> 00:02:21,990 [Music] 30 00:02:29,930 --> 00:02:27,300 as always we are live from a bunker 31 00:02:32,900 --> 00:02:29,940 somewhere in the middle of beautiful 32 00:02:34,580 --> 00:02:32,910 downtown Burbank California and I would 33 00:02:37,670 --> 00:02:34,590 like to welcome everybody listening all 34 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:37,680 around the world all across the United 35 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:41,970 States hither and thither to and fro 36 00:02:50,380 --> 00:02:44,130 back and forth up and down east and west 37 00:02:53,930 --> 00:02:50,390 north and south far and near 38 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:53,940 this is fade to black for kjc are the 39 00:03:00,980 --> 00:02:56,610 game changer network and Keiji are a the 40 00:03:06,140 --> 00:03:00,990 planets I am your host Jimmy Church what 41 00:03:07,620 --> 00:03:06,150 is cracking everybody how you doin how 42 00:03:12,380 --> 00:03:07,630 you doing 43 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:18,120 tonight tonight barber lab joins us for 44 00:03:24,150 --> 00:03:21,610 the very first time I know I know before 45 00:03:28,589 --> 00:03:24,160 you go okay you know why did it take 46 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:28,599 this long I get it but that's not what 47 00:03:36,110 --> 00:03:33,250 is important what is important is that 48 00:03:40,710 --> 00:03:36,120 she is here tonight 49 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:40,720 Barbara lamb unbelievable tomorrow night 50 00:03:48,090 --> 00:03:44,530 we have a very special surprise guest 51 00:03:51,180 --> 00:03:48,100 just be patient I love surprises 52 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:51,190 I too I love surprises 53 00:03:55,530 --> 00:03:53,530 and that'll be tomorrow night Thursday 54 00:03:59,190 --> 00:03:55,540 is another Fator night with open lines 55 00:04:00,990 --> 00:03:59,200 all night long and there you go 56 00:04:03,150 --> 00:04:01,000 the new Colin number if you don't have 57 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:03,160 that written down you should seven four 58 00:04:10,350 --> 00:04:07,290 seven two two eight two zero five one 59 00:04:12,539 --> 00:04:10,360 there you go let's jump straight to it 60 00:04:17,159 --> 00:04:12,549 you can follow us on twitter at jay 61 00:04:21,750 --> 00:04:17,169 church radio that's what you want to do 62 00:04:23,969 --> 00:04:21,760 Twitter's where it's at Twitter all you 63 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:23,979 know of course we have Facebook and we 64 00:04:31,020 --> 00:04:27,370 have YouTube but then there is Twitter 65 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:31,030 and Twitter is where I hang out I do you 66 00:04:36,210 --> 00:04:33,370 know I got a I got a continue to ride 67 00:04:38,850 --> 00:04:36,220 that Facebook bear man I got to do it 68 00:04:42,510 --> 00:04:38,860 just too big same thing with YouTube 69 00:04:45,210 --> 00:04:42,520 just too big so you just got to keep 70 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:45,220 doing it but Twitter is where I hang out 71 00:04:49,940 --> 00:04:48,250 I like Twitter Twitter's cool and you 72 00:04:53,820 --> 00:04:49,950 know I know some people out there get 73 00:04:56,129 --> 00:04:53,830 you know shadow band you know thrown in 74 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:56,139 Twitter jail for stepping out of bounds 75 00:05:01,440 --> 00:04:58,210 and I understand all of that just play 76 00:05:03,230 --> 00:05:01,450 within the rules I I play within the 77 00:05:07,379 --> 00:05:03,240 rules I guess because I've had zero 78 00:05:09,900 --> 00:05:07,389 issues with Twitter ya know so I just do 79 00:05:13,020 --> 00:05:09,910 my thang and behave and and it's all 80 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:13,030 good but it enables me to communicate 81 00:05:18,540 --> 00:05:14,770 with all of you and I get to post stuff 82 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:18,550 and pictures dudes Diaz just tweeted see 83 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:20,710 that's why I like Twitter just pops up 84 00:05:24,830 --> 00:05:22,050 real-time 85 00:05:28,430 --> 00:05:24,840 are you doing see that's what I'm saying 86 00:05:34,550 --> 00:05:28,440 right there how you doing how you doing 87 00:05:36,529 --> 00:05:34,560 deuce are you doing deuce alright so 88 00:05:38,809 --> 00:05:36,539 follow us on twitter at a church radio 89 00:05:43,610 --> 00:05:38,819 any questions or comments during the 90 00:05:46,730 --> 00:05:43,620 show hashtag f2b q on twitter the 91 00:05:48,610 --> 00:05:46,740 sandbox is hashtag f2b 92 00:05:52,219 --> 00:05:48,620 you can also email throughout the show 93 00:05:56,779 --> 00:05:52,229 jimmy at jimmy church radio.com people 94 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:56,789 still use email they do they really do 95 00:06:00,200 --> 00:05:57,930 they do 96 00:06:02,659 --> 00:06:00,210 thank you for fingers already in the 97 00:06:04,850 --> 00:06:02,669 house he's got look at that that's a 98 00:06:06,610 --> 00:06:04,860 computer rig right there if you've got 99 00:06:09,890 --> 00:06:06,620 all of that on one screen 100 00:06:13,399 --> 00:06:09,900 he's got the bunker cam he's got one two 101 00:06:18,730 --> 00:06:13,409 three four five six seven Twitter feeds 102 00:06:21,110 --> 00:06:18,740 up that's a man that is connected 103 00:06:25,249 --> 00:06:21,120 connected you know what I'm gonna do 104 00:06:29,959 --> 00:06:25,259 next I'm gonna let you know now and and 105 00:06:32,029 --> 00:06:29,969 I'm doing this so Rita can hear this 106 00:06:36,740 --> 00:06:32,039 live on the air that way I don't have to 107 00:06:39,499 --> 00:06:36,750 say it to her or ask her if I can do it 108 00:06:42,290 --> 00:06:39,509 in person see if I do it on the air then 109 00:06:44,570 --> 00:06:42,300 it softens the blow right I can do that 110 00:06:45,860 --> 00:06:44,580 and get away with it you know what I'm 111 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:45,870 gonna do I'm gonna get all curved 112 00:06:52,519 --> 00:06:48,690 screens I've got these are getting too 113 00:06:54,260 --> 00:06:52,529 small for me and I've just got to get so 114 00:06:56,689 --> 00:06:54,270 what I'm thinking about I was gonna get 115 00:07:00,350 --> 00:06:56,699 three screens but I'm not I'm going to 116 00:07:03,580 --> 00:07:00,360 get two screens that's what I'm gonna do 117 00:07:07,969 --> 00:07:03,590 I'm gonna get two large curved screens 118 00:07:10,749 --> 00:07:07,979 that's what I'm going to do that's right 119 00:07:16,610 --> 00:07:10,759 two big ones so I think I'm gonna go I 120 00:07:18,769 --> 00:07:16,620 don't know 26:28 I think two of those 121 00:07:22,369 --> 00:07:18,779 that's almost three feet so that would 122 00:07:25,550 --> 00:07:22,379 be six feet of screens curved yeah I'm 123 00:07:29,930 --> 00:07:25,560 down for that and that's my next move 124 00:07:31,850 --> 00:07:29,940 that's my next move that's my next move 125 00:07:32,710 --> 00:07:31,860 it's either that or another guitar and 126 00:07:35,230 --> 00:07:32,720 and 127 00:07:38,260 --> 00:07:35,240 have to make a choice so I'm going with 128 00:07:39,850 --> 00:07:38,270 the curved screens curved screen off I 129 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:39,860 do it but there will be a split in the 130 00:07:55,420 --> 00:07:42,530 middle maybe I do have to go with three 131 00:07:58,540 --> 00:07:55,430 Rita I thought it would be easier to get 132 00:08:00,550 --> 00:07:58,550 three is tough but I am set up for three 133 00:08:02,050 --> 00:08:00,560 because of my monitor bar that I have 134 00:08:04,210 --> 00:08:02,060 here I've got I've got the three 135 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:04,220 monitors going across so maybe I should 136 00:08:09,900 --> 00:08:07,010 just get three three curved ones and 137 00:08:12,940 --> 00:08:09,910 just pop pop pop and and just do that 138 00:08:15,220 --> 00:08:12,950 well Rita to was an idea but you know 139 00:08:17,110 --> 00:08:15,230 what I can't have a split here in the 140 00:08:19,390 --> 00:08:17,120 middle no I got to have one curved and 141 00:08:22,870 --> 00:08:19,400 then two curved on the wings yeah 142 00:08:26,590 --> 00:08:22,880 alright but that's my next move and it's 143 00:08:28,990 --> 00:08:26,600 going to be very very soon all right 144 00:08:33,719 --> 00:08:29,000 breaking news let's get to that right 145 00:08:39,670 --> 00:08:33,729 now former Trump attorney Michael Cohen 146 00:08:43,719 --> 00:08:39,680 has been disbarred in New York that was 147 00:08:45,430 --> 00:08:43,729 announced today disbarred that's it well 148 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:45,440 it's going to prison anyway we can be a 149 00:08:53,620 --> 00:08:50,050 prison attorney well he can't now a 150 00:08:55,660 --> 00:08:53,630 wonderfully can can practice law in 151 00:08:57,010 --> 00:08:55,670 other states you know a lot of attorneys 152 00:08:59,260 --> 00:08:57,020 do that all right 153 00:09:01,390 --> 00:08:59,270 I wonder if he's gonna be disbarred 154 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:01,400 across the country because what if what 155 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:04,850 if he does he's is he I guess he's doing 156 00:09:11,950 --> 00:09:08,930 federal time and what if he you know 157 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:11,960 okay so well if he's if he's got to go 158 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:14,330 to prison in New York that answers that 159 00:09:21,700 --> 00:09:19,130 idea but yeah interesting question a guy 160 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:21,710 like Michael Cohen right a crooked 161 00:09:27,420 --> 00:09:25,010 attorney that guy's got a lot of jail 162 00:09:31,660 --> 00:09:27,430 business in front of him and he's gonna 163 00:09:33,910 --> 00:09:31,670 he's gonna be eating free he's gonna get 164 00:09:35,410 --> 00:09:33,920 all the action he wants at the 165 00:09:37,930 --> 00:09:35,420 commissary 166 00:09:40,020 --> 00:09:37,940 think about that you know a crooked 167 00:09:43,750 --> 00:09:40,030 attorney in prison that everybody knows 168 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:43,760 you're in you're in my codes gonna be 169 00:09:56,470 --> 00:09:52,920 since the scorching hot summer of 2006 170 00:10:00,250 --> 00:09:56,480 almost 3000 archaeological artifacts 171 00:10:04,660 --> 00:10:00,260 have been showing up in the melting ice 172 00:10:10,300 --> 00:10:04,670 in oppland in northern Norway among them 173 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:10,310 an Iron Age tunic iron age a 1500 year 174 00:10:17,850 --> 00:10:10,910 old 175 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:17,860 shoe three thousand artifacts so far and 176 00:10:25,410 --> 00:10:21,110 what's incredible about it is instead of 177 00:10:28,569 --> 00:10:25,420 having to dig in the dirt like 178 00:10:31,780 --> 00:10:28,579 traditional archaeologists aplans 179 00:10:34,870 --> 00:10:31,790 archaeologists simply walk around that's 180 00:10:37,180 --> 00:10:34,880 all they do they walk around and look at 181 00:10:40,350 --> 00:10:37,190 their feet that said it's all they do 182 00:10:42,069 --> 00:10:40,360 because they're tripping over everything 183 00:10:44,470 --> 00:10:42,079 it's right there 184 00:10:46,810 --> 00:10:44,480 ice thaws artifacts are on the surface 185 00:10:49,990 --> 00:10:46,820 they just go out and have a leisurely 186 00:10:52,030 --> 00:10:50,000 stroll and they're doing their job and 187 00:10:54,670 --> 00:10:52,040 it's all going down right now in oppland 188 00:10:56,949 --> 00:10:54,680 northern Norway the the glaciers there 189 00:10:59,769 --> 00:10:56,959 are just melting they're disappearing 190 00:11:03,460 --> 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I think of office space and so 275 00:15:00,670 --> 00:14:58,490 there's that funny scene in office pan 276 00:15:02,170 --> 00:15:00,680 you're Michael Bolton I'm not be Michael 277 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:02,180 you're not okay there's that 278 00:15:09,629 --> 00:15:06,010 then there's the interview when 279 00:15:13,180 --> 00:15:09,639 everybody's doing the layoffs and 280 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:13,190 homeboy goes so what's your favorite 281 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:23,500 that's where I'm coming from 282 00:15:30,819 --> 00:15:25,370 alright they're dead guys birthday today 283 00:15:33,819 --> 00:15:30,829 is Johnny Cash 1932 to 2003 died at the 284 00:15:37,540 --> 00:15:33,829 age of 71 and of course you've got Ring 285 00:15:41,019 --> 00:15:37,550 of Fire I walked a line a boy named Sue 286 00:15:46,210 --> 00:15:41,029 Folsom Prison Blues and one of his last 287 00:15:48,699 --> 00:15:46,220 if not his greatest rusty cage and I 288 00:15:51,519 --> 00:15:48,709 know he's listening right now happy 289 00:15:55,540 --> 00:15:51,529 birthday Johnny Cash on this day in 290 00:15:58,420 --> 00:15:55,550 history 1949 that's right I always say 291 00:16:02,110 --> 00:15:58,430 it - it went down well it did from 292 00:16:07,030 --> 00:16:02,120 Carswell Air Force Base in Fort Worth 293 00:16:11,009 --> 00:16:07,040 Texas the lucky lady to a b-50 294 00:16:16,269 --> 00:16:11,019 superfortress takes off on the first 295 00:16:18,430 --> 00:16:16,279 non-stop round-the-world flight on this 296 00:16:21,309 --> 00:16:18,440 day in 1949 and if you just stop and 297 00:16:25,509 --> 00:16:21,319 think about that you know the Wright 298 00:16:27,010 --> 00:16:25,519 brothers 1903 you know flew for about 50 299 00:16:29,860 --> 00:16:27,020 feet but they flew 300 00:16:32,110 --> 00:16:29,870 you know 1903 whatever was 100 feet but 301 00:16:36,310 --> 00:16:32,120 they got off the ground ain't motorized 302 00:16:41,650 --> 00:16:36,320 you know so they they flew and just 45 303 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:41,660 years later 45 years they're flying 304 00:16:48,370 --> 00:16:45,770 around the world non-stop that's that's 305 00:16:50,590 --> 00:16:48,380 crazy to me that's crazy 306 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:50,600 that's crazy i I don't know what the 307 00:16:56,770 --> 00:16:54,530 technical leap was but we had it all 308 00:17:00,340 --> 00:16:56,780 over the place and it just happened so 309 00:17:05,050 --> 00:17:00,350 fast in that little four decade window 310 00:17:08,980 --> 00:17:05,060 you know from electricity from Street 311 00:17:13,860 --> 00:17:08,990 from gas lamps all the way to nuclear 312 00:17:15,310 --> 00:17:13,870 bombs and jet planes in four decades 313 00:17:25,060 --> 00:17:15,320 that's nuts 314 00:17:28,810 --> 00:17:25,070 vetted IKS catalog is one of the most 315 00:17:33,610 --> 00:17:28,820 published books in the world and as 316 00:17:37,930 --> 00:17:33,620 widely circulated as the bible and the 317 00:17:40,870 --> 00:17:37,940 qur'an and that is your fader fact 318 00:17:43,330 --> 00:17:40,880 tonight Barbara Lam joins us for the 319 00:17:45,190 --> 00:17:43,340 very first time and tomorrow and 320 00:17:48,310 --> 00:17:45,200 tomorrow night is a very special 321 00:17:50,290 --> 00:17:48,320 surprise guest Thursday is another fader 322 00:17:52,630 --> 00:17:50,300 night with open lines all night long and 323 00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:52,640 we'll do all of that on Thursday really 324 00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:54,350 looking forward to hanging out with all 325 00:18:00,970 --> 00:17:58,490 of you and so before I get to my that's 326 00:18:03,790 --> 00:18:00,980 a great Karen that's a great picture of 327 00:18:05,950 --> 00:18:03,800 Johnny Cash right there that's what I'm 328 00:18:09,790 --> 00:18:05,960 talking about that's cool 329 00:18:15,660 --> 00:18:09,800 it's a gift actually and there you go 330 00:18:20,250 --> 00:18:15,670 yeah b15 not to b-52 why I said be fit 331 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:20,260 e-50 that's a Stratofortress I said 332 00:18:24,070 --> 00:18:21,770 Superfortress 333 00:18:30,490 --> 00:18:24,080 all right let me hit this River moon 334 00:18:35,620 --> 00:18:30,500 coffee somebody asked me over the 335 00:18:38,220 --> 00:18:35,630 weekend I did probably around not that 336 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:38,230 many I did about a half a dozen 337 00:18:43,289 --> 00:18:40,610 interviews podcast and 338 00:18:46,210 --> 00:18:43,299 and live feeds and and stuff like that 339 00:18:49,740 --> 00:18:46,220 over the weekend at the conscious life 340 00:18:54,250 --> 00:18:49,750 Expo but once again over the weekend 341 00:18:57,279 --> 00:18:54,260 during one of those interviews I get the 342 00:19:00,669 --> 00:18:57,289 question right who is the one guest that 343 00:19:02,710 --> 00:19:00,679 I want to have on the show that I've 344 00:19:06,820 --> 00:19:02,720 never interviewed who's that one guest 345 00:19:13,110 --> 00:19:06,830 and I know I get the question a lot and 346 00:19:15,159 --> 00:19:13,120 I and I assume that most ask because 347 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:15,169 they're wondering if it's somebody that 348 00:19:19,629 --> 00:19:17,210 I want to have on the show eventually 349 00:19:23,409 --> 00:19:19,639 that I haven't had on in the past okay 350 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:23,419 all right that I get that and although 351 00:19:28,870 --> 00:19:25,370 I've answered this question pretty much 352 00:19:33,299 --> 00:19:28,880 the same every time that I get it and I 353 00:19:37,779 --> 00:19:33,309 get it a lot I go with those that I 354 00:19:39,850 --> 00:19:37,789 wanted to interview but can't write and 355 00:19:45,669 --> 00:19:39,860 and my answer is the same every time 356 00:19:48,940 --> 00:19:45,679 it's Lloyd Pye and there's lots of of 357 00:19:51,519 --> 00:19:48,950 great researchers out there that are no 358 00:19:54,850 --> 00:19:51,529 longer with us and the list is you know 359 00:20:00,039 --> 00:19:54,860 miles long I get that but Lloyd Pye is 360 00:20:02,399 --> 00:20:00,049 who I think of first and and for for so 361 00:20:06,389 --> 00:20:02,409 many reasons but I think he's funny 362 00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:06,399 very smart thinks outside of the box 363 00:20:11,230 --> 00:20:08,960 great conversationalist and you know 364 00:20:15,490 --> 00:20:11,240 what he was just an all-around great guy 365 00:20:17,470 --> 00:20:15,500 a very cool guy and I just know that we 366 00:20:20,169 --> 00:20:17,480 would have had the most amazing shows 367 00:20:21,909 --> 00:20:20,179 together and so he's the one he's the 368 00:20:24,490 --> 00:20:21,919 one I think I could have just sat down 369 00:20:26,379 --> 00:20:24,500 with Lloyd and and just you know broke 370 00:20:27,870 --> 00:20:26,389 out a show or any time that we needed to 371 00:20:30,909 --> 00:20:27,880 do it a lot like Jim Marrs 372 00:20:33,549 --> 00:20:30,919 Jim Marrs was a very fun show and and 373 00:20:36,460 --> 00:20:33,559 John Anthony West who as well you know 374 00:20:39,659 --> 00:20:36,470 always always great shows but okay and 375 00:20:42,810 --> 00:20:39,669 then I immediately follow that up with 376 00:20:47,649 --> 00:20:42,820 probably a little bit out of guilt 377 00:20:50,919 --> 00:20:47,659 because again equally cool is J Allen 378 00:20:53,409 --> 00:20:50,929 Hynek all right and Lloyd passed away 379 00:20:54,550 --> 00:20:53,419 not that long ago and I just missed that 380 00:20:58,510 --> 00:20:54,560 opportunity 381 00:21:01,150 --> 00:20:58,520 but a J Allen Hynek has been away from 382 00:21:04,060 --> 00:21:01,160 us for a long time and but I would have 383 00:21:07,780 --> 00:21:04,070 loved to have interviewed him and 384 00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:07,790 although that this is true right those 385 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:13,520 are the two cats right the reasons are 386 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:15,770 obvious why I can't interview them or I 387 00:21:19,660 --> 00:21:18,170 won't and it's because that they're no 388 00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:19,670 longer with us and that makes it 389 00:21:28,510 --> 00:21:25,120 impossible but as far as living today 390 00:21:33,340 --> 00:21:28,520 well okay if I go down that road its 391 00:21:35,260 --> 00:21:33,350 Jacques Vallee and Jacques of course 392 00:21:37,090 --> 00:21:35,270 first off he's still with us and I've 393 00:21:39,370 --> 00:21:37,100 talked to many times about doing this 394 00:21:41,770 --> 00:21:39,380 show and he's already said yes we've 395 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:41,780 just got to find the right time so I can 396 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:44,570 relax about Jacques eventually I know it 397 00:21:50,820 --> 00:21:48,050 will happen all right but then the other 398 00:21:53,740 --> 00:21:50,830 one I mean you know who's the other one 399 00:21:58,330 --> 00:21:53,750 well she's with us tonight 400 00:22:00,640 --> 00:21:58,340 it's Barbara lamb and I remember I 401 00:22:04,750 --> 00:22:00,650 remember the first time that I met 402 00:22:07,450 --> 00:22:04,760 Barbara she will never remember this and 403 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:07,460 it was about ten years ago and she was 404 00:22:13,810 --> 00:22:11,530 in the audience attending a MUFON 405 00:22:16,330 --> 00:22:13,820 presentation here in Los Angeles I don't 406 00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:16,340 remember who was speaking at MUFON but 407 00:22:20,620 --> 00:22:18,320 she was there she was in the audience 408 00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:20,630 and I was standing in the back of the 409 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:25,280 room and I noticed a crowd you know 410 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:29,570 about 10 10 or 15 people clogging up the 411 00:22:38,260 --> 00:22:32,510 aisle way in between the rows of chairs 412 00:22:40,390 --> 00:22:38,270 and people scooting over you know 413 00:22:43,060 --> 00:22:40,400 whoever was sitting there and getting to 414 00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:43,070 Barbara and shaking her hand so I kind 415 00:22:46,990 --> 00:22:44,480 of step I'm gonna look at one oh it's 416 00:22:49,690 --> 00:22:47,000 Barbara lamb oh cool she's just sitting 417 00:22:52,270 --> 00:22:49,700 in the crowd you know she's just an 418 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:52,280 attendee but she's got this crowd around 419 00:23:03,130 --> 00:22:58,010 her and I want okay all right I'm gonna 420 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:03,140 do this so I stand in line I do I stand 421 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:06,410 in line and eventually I work my way up 422 00:23:10,970 --> 00:23:08,250 and I got my chance to say 423 00:23:17,060 --> 00:23:10,980 hello I leaned over who was ever there 424 00:23:23,140 --> 00:23:17,070 and introduce myself and and she struck 425 00:23:27,910 --> 00:23:23,150 me as someone who is just so well I 426 00:23:31,250 --> 00:23:27,920 honest I don't know how else to say it 427 00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:31,260 she's real she's real cool too as well 428 00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:35,130 but she's also real concerned and when I 429 00:23:41,900 --> 00:23:39,120 was standing in line waiting my turn for 430 00:23:43,730 --> 00:23:41,910 my opportunity to say hello I'm also 431 00:23:45,650 --> 00:23:43,740 listening to what everybody else is 432 00:23:48,050 --> 00:23:45,660 saying to her and asking her questions 433 00:23:50,690 --> 00:23:48,060 and they're telling her stories and she 434 00:23:53,810 --> 00:23:50,700 was just very patient with everybody and 435 00:23:56,780 --> 00:23:53,820 and was answering all these varied 436 00:24:00,680 --> 00:23:56,790 questions about regression or contact or 437 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:00,690 abduction or past lives and and all of 438 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:03,090 these sightings that they've had she was 439 00:24:08,420 --> 00:24:05,490 very nice very pleasant and I get up and 440 00:24:12,650 --> 00:24:08,430 and she was so cool with me you know and 441 00:24:14,660 --> 00:24:12,660 that's how she hit me and I am very 442 00:24:18,620 --> 00:24:14,670 excited about having her on with us 443 00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:18,630 tonight Barbara and I and Rita have 444 00:24:23,780 --> 00:24:22,080 talked for years about getting Barbara 445 00:24:26,510 --> 00:24:23,790 on the show and it was just always one 446 00:24:29,300 --> 00:24:26,520 thing led to another Barbara's winging 447 00:24:31,310 --> 00:24:29,310 it over to Europe or she's researching 448 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:31,320 crop circles somewhere things were just 449 00:24:38,330 --> 00:24:34,770 going on we just never got a chance to 450 00:24:41,510 --> 00:24:38,340 lock it down and we talked often by the 451 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:41,520 way but tonight is the night and I'll 452 00:24:48,590 --> 00:24:45,330 say this if you ever get a chance to 453 00:24:51,260 --> 00:24:48,600 meet Barbara please just go up introduce 454 00:24:53,150 --> 00:24:51,270 yourself and and be prepared for 455 00:24:57,290 --> 00:24:53,160 pleasantness and have a great 456 00:25:00,230 --> 00:24:57,300 conversation but you also have to be 457 00:25:02,870 --> 00:25:00,240 careful of who you want to meet so I'm 458 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:02,880 giving I'm giving you giving you the 459 00:25:06,620 --> 00:25:05,010 recommendation for Barbara but you've 460 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:06,630 got to be careful who you want to meet 461 00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:10,490 because sometimes they don't represent 462 00:25:20,570 --> 00:25:17,130 who you thought they were and I have met 463 00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:20,580 some researchers out there that I have 464 00:25:24,380 --> 00:25:21,960 respected and read the 465 00:25:27,470 --> 00:25:24,390 books over the years and and listen to 466 00:25:30,289 --> 00:25:27,480 them on radio and television and then 467 00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:30,299 you go and meet them in person kind of 468 00:25:38,659 --> 00:25:33,840 get to know them a little bit and it's 469 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:38,669 just like ah this kind of sucks I'm not 470 00:25:47,060 --> 00:25:43,610 digging I wish I hadn't met you and 471 00:25:50,299 --> 00:25:47,070 that's the truth you need to be careful 472 00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:50,309 because I I am the same as anybody else 473 00:25:53,930 --> 00:25:52,230 you know you don't meet any you know you 474 00:25:56,060 --> 00:25:53,940 don't need these people and you hold 475 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:56,070 them and you know you just hold them up 476 00:26:00,470 --> 00:25:57,890 in the research and the stories in their 477 00:26:02,180 --> 00:26:00,480 experiences and this is that and and 478 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:02,190 then you turn around Amina and it's just 479 00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:07,890 awful it's just awful Barbara I got 480 00:26:16,659 --> 00:26:12,960 lucky we are all lucky because Barbara 481 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:16,669 is exactly who you think she is I 482 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:20,490 mentioned last night on the show that I 483 00:26:26,149 --> 00:26:23,370 went out to lunch with Barbara Nancy and 484 00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:26,159 I nursed Nancy and I went out to lunch 485 00:26:32,539 --> 00:26:30,480 with Barbara and it was first off it's 486 00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:32,549 what I was hoping and expecting which 487 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:35,039 was just a great conversation she's just 488 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:35,610 amazing 489 00:26:44,630 --> 00:26:38,250 but when Barbara and I were talking that 490 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:44,640 was one thing and Nancy decided to take 491 00:26:57,409 --> 00:26:52,770 over that the the lunch and watching 492 00:27:00,049 --> 00:26:57,419 Barbara's response to Nancy on point 493 00:27:01,850 --> 00:27:00,059 just shifted gears and went straight 494 00:27:03,409 --> 00:27:01,860 there with Nancy and then Nancy had a 495 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:03,419 follow-up question and a follow-up 496 00:27:09,049 --> 00:27:07,250 question and and watching Barbara's eyes 497 00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:09,059 they shifted 498 00:27:14,450 --> 00:27:11,370 she was aren't as she was in focused and 499 00:27:16,220 --> 00:27:14,460 she's concerned she's really really 500 00:27:18,289 --> 00:27:16,230 concerned she's concerned about what's 501 00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:18,299 going on with this planet with us with 502 00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:22,529 et she is she is right there and her 503 00:27:26,750 --> 00:27:24,510 research is second to none and I don't 504 00:27:29,570 --> 00:27:26,760 think she will ever ever take her foot 505 00:27:31,940 --> 00:27:29,580 off the gas so tonight is a special 506 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:31,950 night for me and a lot like when I 507 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:35,130 mentioned Erich von däniken yesterday 508 00:27:39,290 --> 00:27:37,530 about how hard this man works and how 509 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:39,300 long he's been doing and then certainly 510 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:42,810 Linda and Stanton Friedman been doing 511 00:27:48,050 --> 00:27:44,970 this for a very long time 512 00:27:51,410 --> 00:27:48,060 Barbara is right there with all of them 513 00:27:54,350 --> 00:27:51,420 it's been doing this for over 40 years 514 00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:54,360 so with somebody like Barbara is on a 515 00:27:59,570 --> 00:27:56,880 show like this you need to just pay 516 00:28:02,870 --> 00:27:59,580 attention pay attention and do that 517 00:28:04,790 --> 00:28:02,880 tonight Barbara lamb is our guest I am 518 00:28:07,610 --> 00:28:04,800 your host Jimmy church tomorrow night 519 00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:07,620 that's right we've got another very 520 00:28:11,150 --> 00:28:09,360 special surprise guest tomorrow night 521 00:28:14,390 --> 00:28:11,160 we'll make that announcement tomorrow 522 00:28:17,330 --> 00:28:14,400 yeah probably right before the show - 523 00:28:19,130 --> 00:28:17,340 that's when it's most fun Thursday is 524 00:28:21,650 --> 00:28:19,140 another Fator night with open lines all 525 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:21,660 night long the new Colin number is seven 526 00:28:26,570 --> 00:28:24,090 four seven two 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00:32:54,530 --> 00:32:51,390 this is Jimmy Church and whatever your 613 00:33:13,180 --> 00:32:54,540 diet plans are do what I did go too fast 614 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:23,290 [Music] 615 00:33:33,230 --> 00:33:28,890 all right welcome back fade to black 616 00:33:35,660 --> 00:33:33,240 I am your host Jimmy Church on the game 617 00:33:37,310 --> 00:33:35,670 changer network in kg are a the planet 618 00:33:42,590 --> 00:33:37,320 you can follow me on Twitter right now 619 00:33:44,780 --> 00:33:42,600 at J Church radio jump in on the 620 00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:44,790 conversation over on Twitter in the 621 00:33:50,390 --> 00:33:46,860 sandbox hashtag f2b 622 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:50,400 of course we have that and we have our 623 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:53,370 to chat rooms one at Spreaker and one 624 00:33:59,270 --> 00:33:57,450 over at kg ra the planet whatever you 625 00:34:01,400 --> 00:33:59,280 want to do email is Jimmy and Jimmy 626 00:34:03,290 --> 00:34:01,410 Church radio calm you can do that too as 627 00:34:05,150 --> 00:34:03,300 well everything is live and up in front 628 00:34:08,030 --> 00:34:05,160 of me tonight our guest is Barbara Lam 629 00:34:09,980 --> 00:34:08,040 she is a licensed psychotherapist a 630 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:09,990 hypnotherapist and a regression 631 00:34:16,340 --> 00:34:13,050 therapist who has studied ET DNA and the 632 00:34:20,620 --> 00:34:16,350 et human hybrid phenomenon Barbara has 633 00:34:23,060 --> 00:34:20,630 conducted over 2,600 regressions with 634 00:34:25,149 --> 00:34:23,070 1,750 people who have experienced 635 00:34:27,380 --> 00:34:25,159 various kinds of encounters with 636 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:27,390 extraterrestrial and interdimensional 637 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:29,970 beings as one of the leading experts in 638 00:34:35,570 --> 00:34:32,130 this field Barbara has spent over four 639 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:35,580 decades in studies research practice and 640 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:38,010 teaching Barbara has co-authored three 641 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:40,370 books crop circles revealed which I have 642 00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:43,890 alien experiences and meet the hybrids 643 00:34:49,700 --> 00:34:47,730 in 2016 Barbara received the Lifetime 644 00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:49,710 Achievement Award for outstanding 645 00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:52,350 achievement in the field of ufology from 646 00:34:59,600 --> 00:34:55,919 the International UFO Congress she has 647 00:35:01,780 --> 00:34:59,610 an MS and MFT a CHT received her BA from 648 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:01,790 Mount Holyoke College in Massachusetts 649 00:35:05,870 --> 00:35:04,650 her MS degree from the University of 650 00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:05,880 Laverne right here in Southern 651 00:35:11,060 --> 00:35:08,310 California her license as a marriage and 652 00:35:13,700 --> 00:35:11,070 family therapist in California and her 653 00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:13,710 certification as a hypnotherapist from 654 00:35:17,540 --> 00:35:16,110 hypnosis motivation Institute and I 655 00:35:18,740 --> 00:35:17,550 would like to welcome for the first time 656 00:35:21,350 --> 00:35:18,750 I'm so excited 657 00:35:24,650 --> 00:35:21,360 Barbara Lam Barbara good evening how are 658 00:35:26,540 --> 00:35:24,660 you good evening fine and I'm very happy 659 00:35:31,310 --> 00:35:26,550 to be talking to you Jimmy it's about 660 00:35:34,370 --> 00:35:31,320 time Barbara it's known each other for 661 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:34,380 quite a few years and so here we are so 662 00:35:37,710 --> 00:35:36,930 here we are and before we get started 663 00:35:41,390 --> 00:35:37,720 Barbara 664 00:35:45,510 --> 00:35:41,400 you get the first-time guests disclaimer 665 00:35:47,460 --> 00:35:45,520 okay yeah here we go Barbara it's just 666 00:35:49,650 --> 00:35:47,470 you and I sitting on my couch having a 667 00:35:51,870 --> 00:35:49,660 conversation as friends and where the 668 00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:51,880 conversation starts it starts where it 669 00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:53,680 ends it ends but we're going to end his 670 00:36:00,570 --> 00:35:58,570 friends that's it absolutely now you 671 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:00,580 know see this is the thing and you're 672 00:36:04,109 --> 00:36:02,170 right we've known each other for quite a 673 00:36:06,660 --> 00:36:04,119 while and we've had the opportunity to 674 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:06,670 hang out over the years and talk but 675 00:36:12,359 --> 00:36:08,890 this is your first time on the show so I 676 00:36:14,790 --> 00:36:12,369 get to ask all the fun questions in the 677 00:36:18,540 --> 00:36:14,800 beginning that you've answered a million 678 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:18,550 times let's get all of that stuff out of 679 00:36:22,830 --> 00:36:20,530 the way because we have so much to 680 00:36:25,170 --> 00:36:22,840 discuss tonight but for me this is 681 00:36:29,310 --> 00:36:25,180 something that I've never discussed with 682 00:36:30,420 --> 00:36:29,320 you before I look at you Barbara as 683 00:36:33,150 --> 00:36:30,430 everybody does 684 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:33,160 we admire you but you've got such an 685 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:37,330 honest aura about you your eyes and the 686 00:36:41,730 --> 00:36:39,010 way you carry yourself and your voice 687 00:36:44,430 --> 00:36:41,740 and then so you see that you know you 688 00:36:47,550 --> 00:36:44,440 read your books and the research you see 689 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:47,560 that and then you you're asking yourself 690 00:36:52,380 --> 00:36:49,450 like you know you just step back and go 691 00:36:55,589 --> 00:36:52,390 how did Barbara ever get here how did 692 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:55,599 some get yes what what what happened I 693 00:37:00,950 --> 00:36:57,490 mean let's and take it take me back to 694 00:37:03,690 --> 00:37:00,960 the beginning what got you into this 695 00:37:07,859 --> 00:37:03,700 well you know it was such an interesting 696 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:07,869 process which I never ever expected I 697 00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:10,330 never would have dreamed that I'd be 698 00:37:16,140 --> 00:37:12,670 doing this kind of work I 699 00:37:20,010 --> 00:37:16,150 as you mentioned I was educated back in 700 00:37:24,270 --> 00:37:20,020 Massachusetts a very Ivy League kind of 701 00:37:27,810 --> 00:37:24,280 Education and you know very traditional 702 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:27,820 and I was a pretty straight person in 703 00:37:34,890 --> 00:37:31,890 that sense and eventually moved to 704 00:37:37,230 --> 00:37:34,900 California and started realizing oh 705 00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:37,240 there are a lot of other aspects of life 706 00:37:42,829 --> 00:37:39,790 that are really interesting to explore 707 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:42,839 that I had not heard of back east and 708 00:37:49,350 --> 00:37:46,690 one thing led to another and I became a 709 00:37:53,490 --> 00:37:49,360 licensed psychotherapist 710 00:37:57,180 --> 00:37:53,500 back in 1976 and I found that in my 711 00:38:01,640 --> 00:37:57,190 practice I was doing some of what I was 712 00:38:04,860 --> 00:38:01,650 thinking of as deeper work that is 713 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:04,870 sometimes putting people into States a 714 00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:08,410 really deep relaxation and it seemed to 715 00:38:14,430 --> 00:38:11,680 be very therapeutic to them sometimes 716 00:38:16,460 --> 00:38:14,440 they would remember things that they had 717 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:16,470 not been consciously aware of 718 00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:19,570 particularly and it seemed to be a very 719 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:26,320 helpful process so in early 1980s I was 720 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:29,650 travelling to other countries for 721 00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:34,810 instance Peru and then Egypt a couple of 722 00:38:44,460 --> 00:38:39,400 times and at those places there was a 723 00:38:47,690 --> 00:38:44,470 moment when I was somewhere there in one 724 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:47,700 of the ancient ancient sites and 725 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:52,290 suddenly had a very vivid memory of 726 00:39:00,000 --> 00:38:56,170 having been there a long time ago maybe 727 00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:00,010 even two or three thousand or more years 728 00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:06,510 ago and these little flashes I became 729 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:10,150 accustomed to calling spontaneous past 730 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:14,290 life recalls so that eventually led me 731 00:39:24,090 --> 00:39:19,210 in the mid 1980s to start my training as 732 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:24,100 a past life regression therapist and at 733 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:27,690 the last module of training which was 734 00:39:38,070 --> 00:39:32,530 1988 the woman who was doing our 735 00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:38,080 training module said very casually those 736 00:39:45,930 --> 00:39:41,380 of you who are doing regression therapy 737 00:39:48,690 --> 00:39:45,940 work need to know that sometime it's 738 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:48,700 possible that someone will come to you 739 00:39:56,970 --> 00:39:52,770 who's been very confused baffled 740 00:40:00,870 --> 00:39:56,980 mystified maybe even traumatized by 741 00:40:02,030 --> 00:40:00,880 having been visited by very unusual 742 00:40:05,210 --> 00:40:02,040 being 743 00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:05,220 who are not human and they're not 744 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:08,400 animals as we know them and they seem to 745 00:40:15,410 --> 00:40:12,410 be from somewhere else in the universe 746 00:40:18,310 --> 00:40:15,420 definitely not from earth and that 747 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:18,320 sometimes these people are taken away 748 00:40:26,060 --> 00:40:23,370 for an hour or two and returned and they 749 00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:26,070 usually don't remember very much about 750 00:40:33,020 --> 00:40:28,950 it except maybe just the first few 751 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:33,030 moments at the beginning of this contact 752 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:37,650 or maybe the last couple of moments so 753 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:40,050 they might want to come to you to do 754 00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:44,010 regression work well I was absolutely 755 00:40:52,940 --> 00:40:48,510 stunned when I heard that now this again 756 00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:52,950 is 1988 and I had previously thought 757 00:41:01,460 --> 00:40:56,400 that anything to do with ufos or 758 00:41:06,010 --> 00:41:01,470 extraterrestrial beings must be science 759 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:06,020 fiction and not real but then when this 760 00:41:13,940 --> 00:41:10,410 therapist trainer was saying this in all 761 00:41:15,970 --> 00:41:13,950 seriousness that there were people who 762 00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:15,980 were experiencing these things and 763 00:41:21,710 --> 00:41:18,960 because we're doing regression therapy 764 00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:21,720 somebody might come to us for that sort 765 00:41:31,250 --> 00:41:26,400 of concern so right after she said that 766 00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:31,260 even more striking to me was that I 767 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:37,760 heard a big loud voice in my head saying 768 00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:43,170 very insistently pay attention to this 769 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:48,720 Barbara you will be doing this so you 770 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:52,650 can imagine oh boy two new things one 771 00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:56,370 that visitors from somewhere else come 772 00:42:01,580 --> 00:41:58,010 and take people away for a little while 773 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:01,590 that was shocking enough but then what 774 00:42:09,140 --> 00:42:05,130 was this big voice in my head it was not 775 00:42:12,350 --> 00:42:09,150 my voice I I never did find out exactly 776 00:42:13,470 --> 00:42:12,360 where that came from but it was so 777 00:42:16,140 --> 00:42:13,480 insistent 778 00:42:19,530 --> 00:42:16,150 for me to really pay attention to this 779 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:19,540 item and because I would be doing this 780 00:42:28,170 --> 00:42:23,170 work well I had never expected anything 781 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:28,180 like that and I found myself then went 782 00:42:35,130 --> 00:42:32,530 out doing errands I found myself looking 783 00:42:37,790 --> 00:42:35,140 for the nearest bookstore you see if 784 00:42:42,020 --> 00:42:37,800 there were any books about this subject 785 00:42:45,930 --> 00:42:42,030 and I also found myself gravitating to 786 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:45,940 magazine stores and the area where I 787 00:42:53,460 --> 00:42:49,570 lived in Southern California I'm hoping 788 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:53,470 to find magazine articles about this 789 00:42:59,600 --> 00:42:57,370 sort of subject about UFOs and about 790 00:43:03,000 --> 00:42:59,610 these other beings coming and 791 00:43:06,270 --> 00:43:03,010 interacting with certain people and I 792 00:43:10,830 --> 00:43:06,280 did find some information about it so 793 00:43:14,130 --> 00:43:10,840 about three years later in 1991 one day 794 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:14,140 in the shower which is a good sort of 795 00:43:23,790 --> 00:43:18,850 free flow thinking time for me I was 796 00:43:27,630 --> 00:43:23,800 thinking you know if anyone does come to 797 00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:27,640 me for that sort of reason I think I 798 00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:30,730 could handle that I think yeah I think I 799 00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:33,040 could manage that I've been doing a few 800 00:43:40,290 --> 00:43:37,390 years now of regression therapy and I 801 00:43:45,210 --> 00:43:40,300 could apply the same technique so yeah 802 00:43:50,490 --> 00:43:45,220 that would be okay well two hours later 803 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:50,500 the same day that I was in a physical 804 00:43:56,460 --> 00:43:52,690 bookstore and the woman behind the 805 00:44:00,900 --> 00:43:56,470 counter said oh aren't you popular don't 806 00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:00,910 you do regression therapy and I said yes 807 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:01,510 I do 808 00:44:08,310 --> 00:44:04,930 and he said well please would you work 809 00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:08,320 with my 21 year old daughter who's 810 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:12,880 having very odd unusual beings appear in 811 00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:15,610 her room especially at night but 812 00:44:21,780 --> 00:44:18,910 sometimes even during the day and they 813 00:44:23,310 --> 00:44:21,790 seem to take her away they always bring 814 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:23,320 her back but she 815 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:26,530 is so traumatized that she could hardly 816 00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:30,010 function she had dropped out of college 817 00:44:36,570 --> 00:44:32,680 that she was going to and dropped out of 818 00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:36,580 her part-time job and was feeling very 819 00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:40,240 very dependent upon her parents for 820 00:44:46,590 --> 00:44:43,510 safety even though the parents actually 821 00:44:49,260 --> 00:44:46,600 of course couldn't make her be any more 822 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:49,270 safe and she was continuing to have 823 00:44:55,470 --> 00:44:52,450 these visits even when she was sleeping 824 00:45:00,300 --> 00:44:55,480 between her mother and father and their 825 00:45:03,660 --> 00:45:00,310 bed so the parents forgetting not only 826 00:45:06,210 --> 00:45:03,670 concerned but a bit fed up with their 21 827 00:45:09,290 --> 00:45:06,220 year old daughter are sleeping between 828 00:45:14,790 --> 00:45:09,300 them in their bed as you can imagine and 829 00:45:16,740 --> 00:45:14,800 so they needed help well I thought oh 830 00:45:19,020 --> 00:45:16,750 yeah but since that interesting I had 831 00:45:22,410 --> 00:45:19,030 just a couple of hours ago concluded 832 00:45:28,110 --> 00:45:22,420 that I would be able to handle this and 833 00:45:30,750 --> 00:45:28,120 here it is so I saw that young woman 21 834 00:45:35,460 --> 00:45:30,760 year old woman wonderful wonderful girl 835 00:45:38,340 --> 00:45:35,470 and I saw her for six sessions we did a 836 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:38,350 regression each one of those sessions 837 00:45:45,060 --> 00:45:41,050 and all kinds of different things 838 00:45:49,350 --> 00:45:45,070 happened from these extraterrestrial 839 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:49,360 beings and each time she had one of 840 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:51,850 these experiences that we did the 841 00:45:59,910 --> 00:45:57,330 regression to it was a different kind of 842 00:46:04,650 --> 00:45:59,920 extraterrestrial being that was a 843 00:46:07,050 --> 00:46:04,660 surprise to me but there it was and we 844 00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:07,060 found all kinds of interesting things 845 00:46:15,890 --> 00:46:11,680 had happened during those episodes that 846 00:46:19,730 --> 00:46:15,900 we did the regressions - including a 847 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:19,740 session when she was physically healed 848 00:46:30,330 --> 00:46:25,210 in her bedroom at night by three very 849 00:46:33,690 --> 00:46:30,340 tall white beings pure white and they 850 00:46:35,450 --> 00:46:33,700 came into her room rolled her over on 851 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:35,460 her left side 852 00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:40,130 and proceeded to work in her right ear 853 00:46:47,780 --> 00:46:44,510 so she was conscious for some of that 854 00:46:52,089 --> 00:46:47,790 longer than most people are conscious of 855 00:46:54,589 --> 00:46:52,099 their experiences with these beings and 856 00:46:58,010 --> 00:46:54,599 she was aware that they were doing 857 00:47:02,750 --> 00:46:58,020 something in her right ear the one that 858 00:47:06,859 --> 00:47:02,760 was badly infected and then she drifted 859 00:47:08,780 --> 00:47:06,869 on into a really deep sleep and when she 860 00:47:13,809 --> 00:47:08,790 woke up in the morning those beings 861 00:47:18,380 --> 00:47:13,819 three of them were gone but her ear felt 862 00:47:19,970 --> 00:47:18,390 perfectly normal and stayed perfectly 863 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:19,980 healthy and normal 864 00:47:29,329 --> 00:47:24,930 they had healed her very bad ear 865 00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:29,339 infection so that had happened and of 866 00:47:36,049 --> 00:47:32,400 course impressed her favourably and then 867 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:36,059 there was a daytime experience in which 868 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:40,650 she and her sister who was aged 19 at 869 00:47:48,579 --> 00:47:44,490 the time they were riding along or 870 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:48,589 driving along in a car in their suburban 871 00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:55,170 la town and they began to realize that 872 00:48:02,359 --> 00:47:58,400 there was a blue beam of light from 873 00:48:06,289 --> 00:48:02,369 above and that blue beam was coming in 874 00:48:10,490 --> 00:48:06,299 the back window of the car and it was 875 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:10,500 just about dusk time so they could see 876 00:48:17,690 --> 00:48:13,530 this bright blue beam of light quite 877 00:48:20,380 --> 00:48:17,700 clearly and as they were noticing the 878 00:48:24,410 --> 00:48:20,390 light and wondering about it of course 879 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:24,420 the car motor started to sort of peter 880 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:28,530 out and they pulled the car over and so 881 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:31,170 it would be safe been off the road and 882 00:48:38,109 --> 00:48:34,170 they happened to pull over right by a 883 00:48:40,730 --> 00:48:38,119 field so they both jumped out of the car 884 00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:40,740 to get away from this beam not 885 00:48:47,569 --> 00:48:44,510 understanding what it was and they 886 00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:47,579 jumped a little fence and went into a 887 00:48:50,690 --> 00:48:49,110 field 888 00:48:53,930 --> 00:48:50,700 was right there and started running 889 00:48:59,300 --> 00:48:53,940 across the field well the blue beam of 890 00:49:03,500 --> 00:48:59,310 light hit my client in her lower back if 891 00:49:08,660 --> 00:49:03,510 she was running and it felt so good 892 00:49:12,140 --> 00:49:08,670 Oh warm and wonderful so her sister kept 893 00:49:15,170 --> 00:49:12,150 on running but she stopped to just 894 00:49:18,830 --> 00:49:15,180 receive the good feeling of this blue 895 00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:18,840 beam of light now she had had chronic 896 00:49:28,430 --> 00:49:23,280 back pain up until those moments but the 897 00:49:31,730 --> 00:49:28,440 beam of light absolutely relieved we 898 00:49:34,730 --> 00:49:31,740 would say healed the chronic back 899 00:49:39,470 --> 00:49:34,740 condition so she suddenly realized that 900 00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:39,480 she had absolutely no more pain she had 901 00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:43,920 been healed by the blue beam of light so 902 00:49:50,570 --> 00:49:47,280 gradually her sister came back and and 903 00:49:53,090 --> 00:49:50,580 my client reassured her well this was 904 00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:53,100 wonderful if we didn't really need to be 905 00:49:59,240 --> 00:49:56,250 afraid of it at all and they went back 906 00:50:03,950 --> 00:49:59,250 to the car and drove away and life went 907 00:50:09,620 --> 00:50:03,960 on so the seventh session which he came 908 00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:09,630 in for she's dead right away you know I 909 00:50:20,020 --> 00:50:14,910 feel honored I feel privileged that 910 00:50:24,770 --> 00:50:20,030 these various beings have chosen me to 911 00:50:26,410 --> 00:50:24,780 work with and I'm concluding that of all 912 00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:26,420 the different types that have common 913 00:50:34,550 --> 00:50:30,000 whatever they have done that it's really 914 00:50:38,210 --> 00:50:34,560 a good thing even though it had been 915 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:38,220 very very frightening for me so that was 916 00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:41,610 great and she said that she was ready 917 00:50:50,090 --> 00:50:45,720 now to move into a little cabin in kind 918 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:50,100 of a wilderness area near her town moved 919 00:50:56,780 --> 00:50:53,370 with her boyfriend and I said well 920 00:50:59,870 --> 00:50:56,790 that's good that's brave of you and you 921 00:51:01,400 --> 00:50:59,880 realize of course that these experiences 922 00:51:04,220 --> 00:51:01,410 with the other beings 923 00:51:07,100 --> 00:51:04,230 might continue to happen since they have 924 00:51:10,550 --> 00:51:07,110 happened for years now oh and she said 925 00:51:14,180 --> 00:51:10,560 yes I know I've considered that my 926 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:14,190 boyfriend and I feel okay about that if 927 00:51:21,770 --> 00:51:17,970 they come we we will just go ahead and 928 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:21,780 accept that and not be frightened so you 929 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:26,010 see that was my very first case in 1991 930 00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:30,650 of working with this sort of thing with 931 00:51:38,050 --> 00:51:35,310 extraterrestrial visits and that gave me 932 00:51:41,390 --> 00:51:38,060 courage to think that well she was if 933 00:51:44,810 --> 00:51:41,400 anybody else ever comes ya know I know 934 00:51:48,170 --> 00:51:44,820 that I really can work with it it can be 935 00:51:50,510 --> 00:51:48,180 effective it can be very helpful for the 936 00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:50,520 person to know details of what had 937 00:51:57,950 --> 00:51:54,720 happened and so I thought well that you 938 00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:57,960 know maybe some here somebody might come 939 00:52:05,240 --> 00:52:01,680 but as it turned out about five months 940 00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:05,250 later another lady came for the same 941 00:52:11,300 --> 00:52:08,310 reason because she had been visited all 942 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:11,310 of her life that she could remember by 943 00:52:18,410 --> 00:52:14,370 unusual beings and had had many 944 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:18,420 different experiences and very typically 945 00:52:25,220 --> 00:52:21,810 she just remembered only the first 946 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:25,230 several moments of the experience and 947 00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:28,650 then seemed to me out of conscious 948 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:33,920 awareness so that second lady actually 949 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:39,210 worked with me for 11 years well doing 950 00:52:46,630 --> 00:52:42,450 lots of sessions lots of hypnotic 951 00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:46,640 regressions she probably did about 60 952 00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:50,910 really regressions so we found out so 953 00:52:59,330 --> 00:52:55,890 much about the variety of beings and the 954 00:53:05,020 --> 00:52:59,340 variety of experiences that she was 955 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:05,030 having and even though she had been very 956 00:53:11,660 --> 00:53:08,490 frightened at the very beginning of the 957 00:53:12,890 --> 00:53:11,670 experiences she always found out in 958 00:53:15,259 --> 00:53:12,900 regression that 959 00:53:18,349 --> 00:53:15,269 there were perfectly good reasons for 960 00:53:21,890 --> 00:53:18,359 the Biggs doing what they did and 961 00:53:26,660 --> 00:53:21,900 sometimes they were even doing wonderful 962 00:53:31,759 --> 00:53:26,670 things like healing her and teaching her 963 00:53:35,660 --> 00:53:31,769 how to heal others and amping up her 964 00:53:39,710 --> 00:53:35,670 psychic skills and giving her lots of 965 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:39,720 information about the other beings and 966 00:53:47,739 --> 00:53:43,249 other civilizations in the universe and 967 00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:47,749 so she was concluding as time went on 968 00:53:55,309 --> 00:53:51,119 this is really fascinating 969 00:54:00,049 --> 00:53:55,319 I too am pleased that I'm having these 970 00:54:03,650 --> 00:54:00,059 experiences and this woman she must have 971 00:54:09,710 --> 00:54:03,660 been in her early 30s when she came to 972 00:54:12,849 --> 00:54:09,720 me and she was also realizing through 973 00:54:18,729 --> 00:54:12,859 our work that she was frequently 974 00:54:22,370 --> 00:54:18,739 channeling an extraterrestrial being and 975 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:22,380 wonderfully she channeled frequently 976 00:54:29,799 --> 00:54:26,249 when she was in my office with me which 977 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:29,809 meant that I got to speak to that 978 00:54:38,089 --> 00:54:32,970 extraterrestrial being and I probably 979 00:54:42,380 --> 00:54:38,099 got to speak to him oh gosh at least 50 980 00:54:47,049 --> 00:54:42,390 or 60 times Wow we sort of alternated 981 00:54:49,249 --> 00:54:47,059 her channeling this being with 982 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:49,259 regressions we do regressions some 983 00:54:57,979 --> 00:54:52,890 sessions and channeling the others so I 984 00:55:02,690 --> 00:54:57,989 learned a lot from him the being who 985 00:55:07,460 --> 00:55:02,700 said that he lived on a binary star 986 00:55:10,609 --> 00:55:07,470 system which we call and Torres and it 987 00:55:15,769 --> 00:55:10,619 is indeed in our star maps and there 988 00:55:20,089 --> 00:55:15,779 really is such a place so between her 989 00:55:25,069 --> 00:55:20,099 channeling and the regressions Wow 990 00:55:26,460 --> 00:55:25,079 so much opened up for me let me jump in 991 00:55:28,250 --> 00:55:26,470 let me jump in Barbara 992 00:55:32,670 --> 00:55:28,260 because we're gonna head towards a break 993 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:32,680 and so I'm gonna rudely cut you off but 994 00:55:39,690 --> 00:55:35,170 but but what I wanted to ask you quickly 995 00:55:43,830 --> 00:55:39,700 before the break did this force your 996 00:55:46,109 --> 00:55:43,840 hand into serious research at this point 997 00:55:48,359 --> 00:55:46,119 did you have to go and and see what 998 00:55:51,020 --> 00:55:48,369 others were experiencing or witnessing 999 00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:51,030 and other contactees in abduction cases 1000 00:55:59,550 --> 00:55:56,400 we were you now you know therapists / 1001 00:56:02,849 --> 00:55:59,560 researcher yes 1002 00:56:07,410 --> 00:56:02,859 it's mostly a therapist but I did go to 1003 00:56:10,230 --> 00:56:07,420 the UFO congress's and I've heard other 1004 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:10,240 lectures from people like Budd Hopkins 1005 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:13,810 and Rory Jacobson who were working with 1006 00:56:19,140 --> 00:56:14,650 this 1007 00:56:21,990 --> 00:56:19,150 so yeah the research sort of kicked in 1008 00:56:24,630 --> 00:56:22,000 without my planning yet but I was so 1009 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:24,640 intrigued that I was delighted to know 1010 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:28,090 as much about it as I possibly could it 1011 00:56:34,470 --> 00:56:31,930 would it would only make sense and in 60 1012 00:56:36,930 --> 00:56:34,480 seconds if you could you know that would 1013 00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:36,940 only make sense and did the issue for 1014 00:56:43,079 --> 00:56:40,720 you continue to just get complex it's 1015 00:56:45,420 --> 00:56:43,089 not a it's not a simple situation that 1016 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:45,430 we're dealing with here is it oh it's 1017 00:56:52,349 --> 00:56:48,010 not simple at all because there are so 1018 00:56:55,410 --> 00:56:52,359 many many different kinds of beings from 1019 00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:55,420 different parts of the universe and they 1020 00:57:01,560 --> 00:56:58,930 each have their own agenda so when I 1021 00:57:04,670 --> 00:57:01,570 worked with that second woman and then 1022 00:57:08,490 --> 00:57:04,680 and many others after it's been about 1023 00:57:10,730 --> 00:57:08,500 2,000 individuals now whom I have worked 1024 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:10,740 with on their extraterrestrial 1025 00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:13,330 encounters so there's a tremendous 1026 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:17,680 variety of beings that come and interact 1027 00:57:23,849 --> 00:57:20,530 with people and they they all seem to 1028 00:57:26,660 --> 00:57:23,859 have their own program their their own 1029 00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:26,670 purpose or agenda 1030 00:57:33,140 --> 00:57:30,240 or coming so there's a lot to this 1031 00:57:34,910 --> 00:57:33,150 picture there is there is let's take a 1032 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:34,920 break right here we'll pick up right 1033 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:37,170 where we're leaving off Barbara in just 1034 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:38,490 a few short minutes 1035 00:57:41,210 --> 00:57:40,290 this is fade to black I'm your host 1036 00:57:44,690 --> 00:57:41,220 Jimmy Churchill our guest tonight 1037 00:57:47,060 --> 00:57:44,700 Barbara Lam you can follow me on twitter 1038 00:57:48,740 --> 00:57:47,070 IG a church radio any questions for 1039 00:57:52,820 --> 00:57:48,750 Barbara come and join the conversation 1040 00:57:55,490 --> 00:57:52,830 in Twitter hashtag f2b 1041 00:57:56,450 --> 00:57:55,500 q can also email Jimmy and Jimmy turns 1042 00:57:58,100 --> 00:57:56,460 radio calm 1043 00:58:01,700 --> 00:57:58,110 this is fade to black on the game 1044 00:58:03,410 --> 00:58:01,710 changer Network in kg ra the planet more 1045 00:58:04,330 --> 00:58:03,420 Barbara after this 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holds the 1144 01:03:01,410 --> 01:02:58,329 lucky pony record for the best 1145 01:03:05,069 --> 01:03:01,420 astrological chart since 1963 1146 01:03:06,779 --> 01:03:05,079 true story this is Micah Hank's of the 1147 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:06,789 graylien report and you're listening to 1148 01:03:11,099 --> 01:03:09,250 Jimmy church on fade to black across the 1149 01:03:13,740 --> 01:03:11,109 globe on the GameChanger radio network 1150 01:03:14,810 --> 01:03:13,750 and the one and only kgr a radio the 1151 01:03:18,780 --> 01:03:14,820 planet 1152 01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:18,790 [Music] 1153 01:03:30,180 --> 01:03:19,110 [Applause] 1154 01:03:30,190 --> 01:03:35,790 [Music] 1155 01:03:42,420 --> 01:03:38,049 welcome back paid to black house two 1156 01:03:44,829 --> 01:03:42,430 meters tonight our guest is Barbara Lam 1157 01:03:47,980 --> 01:03:44,839 tomorrow night we got a very special 1158 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:47,990 surprise in store for you you have to 1159 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:50,210 stay tuned for that Thursday night is 1160 01:03:55,059 --> 01:03:52,130 open lines all night long it is 1161 01:03:59,799 --> 01:03:55,069 Fator night but tonight it is Barbara 1162 01:04:01,870 --> 01:03:59,809 Lam and Barbara okay so this is what I 1163 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:01,880 find interesting you've got a 1164 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:04,690 professional career happening this 1165 01:04:13,150 --> 01:04:08,770 literally falls in your lap now you are 1166 01:04:16,500 --> 01:04:13,160 getting into the UFO community you start 1167 01:04:21,460 --> 01:04:16,510 attending seminars and conferences and 1168 01:04:23,859 --> 01:04:21,470 the but before that you hadn't had any 1169 01:04:27,609 --> 01:04:23,869 interest in UFOs probably in no 1170 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:27,619 sightings right but but what what is 1171 01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:30,650 going on now did you have any sightings 1172 01:04:37,859 --> 01:04:32,480 after that did you yourself have any 1173 01:04:40,900 --> 01:04:37,869 contact well I did not for a few years 1174 01:04:43,089 --> 01:04:40,910 but after I had really gotten involved 1175 01:04:47,289 --> 01:04:43,099 in this and more and more people were 1176 01:04:52,690 --> 01:04:47,299 coming and I was learning more and more 1177 01:04:57,430 --> 01:04:52,700 through these regressions by about 1994 1178 01:04:59,950 --> 01:04:57,440 I realized that I had 17 clients who 1179 01:05:02,890 --> 01:04:59,960 were coming and my regular therapy 1180 01:05:09,130 --> 01:05:02,900 clients - who had nothing to do with 1181 01:05:13,630 --> 01:05:09,140 this but 17 clients coming and having 1182 01:05:16,630 --> 01:05:13,640 regressions and one by one a few of them 1183 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:16,640 started asking gee is there anyone else 1184 01:05:23,319 --> 01:05:20,930 I can meet and talk with about these 1185 01:05:27,190 --> 01:05:23,329 things and these other people who are 1186 01:05:32,950 --> 01:05:27,200 having these encounters Barbara are you 1187 01:05:35,589 --> 01:05:32,960 moving your microphone around a little 1188 01:05:40,630 --> 01:05:35,599 farther from your mouth there's some 1189 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:40,640 noise okay okay yes it is okay okay so 1190 01:05:47,550 --> 01:05:45,730 so back to this 1994-1995 yep so I 1191 01:05:52,290 --> 01:05:47,560 decided well 1192 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:52,300 why don't I get the 17 of them together 1193 01:05:59,610 --> 01:05:55,090 in a meeting so that was the beginning 1194 01:06:02,820 --> 01:05:59,620 of my experience or support group and I 1195 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:02,830 realized how valuable that was each 1196 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:07,450 person was so grateful that they were 1197 01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:10,450 able to talk to somebody else who was 1198 01:06:17,730 --> 01:06:13,570 experiencing these mysterious things so 1199 01:06:22,230 --> 01:06:17,740 that was really good and also I had been 1200 01:06:25,890 --> 01:06:22,240 going to crop circles for four years at 1201 01:06:28,410 --> 01:06:25,900 that point crop circles in England every 1202 01:06:33,210 --> 01:06:28,420 summer is becoming a very avid crop 1203 01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:33,220 circle research as well and then the 1204 01:06:39,090 --> 01:06:36,130 entity that channeled through that 1205 01:06:45,900 --> 01:06:39,100 second client whom I've been talking 1206 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:45,910 about that entity said that if I wanted 1207 01:06:56,610 --> 01:06:50,050 to I could be taken for the making of a 1208 01:06:58,860 --> 01:06:56,620 crop circle this et entity knew that I 1209 01:07:02,240 --> 01:06:58,870 was going to England and was very 1210 01:07:07,260 --> 01:07:02,250 involved in researching that phenomenon 1211 01:07:12,450 --> 01:07:07,270 so he said that if I wanted to I could 1212 01:07:15,270 --> 01:07:12,460 just ask out loud vehemently to the 1213 01:07:17,940 --> 01:07:15,280 beings who were doing the crop circles 1214 01:07:22,890 --> 01:07:17,950 even though I didn't know who they were 1215 01:07:25,110 --> 01:07:22,900 and just ask them and keep it up for a 1216 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:25,120 while not just one little question or 1217 01:07:30,450 --> 01:07:28,210 one little plea but you know talk to 1218 01:07:35,250 --> 01:07:30,460 them for a while and let them know that 1219 01:07:38,340 --> 01:07:35,260 I really had very strong intent of being 1220 01:07:43,230 --> 01:07:38,350 taken for the making of a crop circle so 1221 01:07:47,490 --> 01:07:43,240 that summer on my way to Los Angeles 1222 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:47,500 Airport to fly to England for about 45 1223 01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:50,770 minutes on the 405 freeway mm-hmm 1224 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:54,160 I was talking to these beings not 1225 01:07:57,850 --> 01:07:56,410 knowing who they were but getting more 1226 01:08:01,690 --> 01:07:57,860 and more 1227 01:08:04,780 --> 01:08:01,700 passioned about it that yes I would 1228 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:04,790 really love to have that experience so I 1229 01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:08,210 arrived in England and did all kinds of 1230 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:10,510 wonderful things so many crop circles 1231 01:08:18,940 --> 01:08:14,690 etc and about three and a half weeks 1232 01:08:22,690 --> 01:08:18,950 later I was realizing that I had only 1233 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:22,700 one more day to see crop circles before 1234 01:08:32,440 --> 01:08:26,930 I would fly home again so that last 1235 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:32,450 night before the last day I asked again 1236 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:35,930 of the beings again not knowing who they 1237 01:08:43,050 --> 01:08:39,290 were or what they were like to be taken 1238 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:43,060 for the making of a crop circle and I 1239 01:08:52,510 --> 01:08:49,130 believe that I was taken I saw in my 1240 01:08:56,530 --> 01:08:52,520 room after turning off the bedside lamp 1241 01:09:01,240 --> 01:08:56,540 I saw three beings approaching me from 1242 01:09:06,340 --> 01:09:01,250 the area of the window and I closed my 1243 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:06,350 eyes and didn't know anything else until 1244 01:09:13,480 --> 01:09:08,810 the alarm clock woke me up the next 1245 01:09:18,340 --> 01:09:13,490 morning well I was the one who 1246 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:18,350 discovered the new crop circle that 1247 01:09:27,250 --> 01:09:22,570 happened during that night and I just 1248 01:09:29,650 --> 01:09:27,260 felt so in love with it really it may 1249 01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:29,660 sound a little bit strange but it was a 1250 01:09:36,580 --> 01:09:32,690 beautiful wonderful experience being in 1251 01:09:39,970 --> 01:09:36,590 a brand new crop circle full of energy 1252 01:09:44,170 --> 01:09:39,980 and full of the little sound of crackle 1253 01:09:48,190 --> 01:09:44,180 and pop like rice krispies and I felt 1254 01:09:52,060 --> 01:09:48,200 very connected to that crop circle so 1255 01:09:56,140 --> 01:09:52,070 when I got home again about two weeks 1256 01:09:59,560 --> 01:09:56,150 later I had a colleague regress me to 1257 01:10:02,650 --> 01:09:59,570 that experience and it showed that the 1258 01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:02,660 three beings who had come toward my bed 1259 01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:06,410 in the room the previous night actually 1260 01:10:10,589 --> 01:10:08,960 took me up through the wall where it 1261 01:10:15,470 --> 01:10:10,599 meets the ceiling 1262 01:10:18,209 --> 01:10:15,480 and onto a small craft and we flew Oh 1263 01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:18,219 few minutes a couple minutes probably 1264 01:10:26,669 --> 01:10:24,310 and then stopped over a wheat field your 1265 01:10:33,149 --> 01:10:26,679 Myka Barbara I have to jump in your 1266 01:10:37,740 --> 01:10:33,159 microphone is making noise yeah it's 1267 01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:37,750 covering up this wonderful story so okay 1268 01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:43,110 let's but okay so let's back back up to 1269 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:46,510 you had felt really good 1270 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:49,210 the the rice krispies you felt really 1271 01:10:56,069 --> 01:10:51,010 good about the experience yeah let's 1272 01:10:58,740 --> 01:10:56,079 pick up right there okay so the next day 1273 01:11:02,189 --> 01:10:58,750 I flew home and a couple of weeks later 1274 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:02,199 I had a regression therapy colleague 1275 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:06,130 regrets me to that experience and I got 1276 01:11:12,569 --> 01:11:09,130 the details of being taken on to that 1277 01:11:15,870 --> 01:11:12,579 small craft and flying a couple of 1278 01:11:19,919 --> 01:11:15,880 minutes stopping over a wheat field in 1279 01:11:25,050 --> 01:11:19,929 the middle of the night and then I heard 1280 01:11:32,810 --> 01:11:25,060 a swooshing noise coming from the bottom 1281 01:11:40,709 --> 01:11:37,260 circle and so I sort of followed it as 1282 01:11:45,149 --> 01:11:40,719 it seemed to be moving around in a 1283 01:11:49,229 --> 01:11:45,159 circle and making a swooshing sound 1284 01:11:58,530 --> 01:11:49,239 every second or so as if it was making a 1285 01:12:01,709 --> 01:11:58,540 circle a circle of circles and anyway 1286 01:12:06,930 --> 01:12:01,719 that was it it was just very quick only 1287 01:12:10,859 --> 01:12:06,940 took a minute or so at the most and then 1288 01:12:13,950 --> 01:12:10,869 I was aware that we were flying back in 1289 01:12:18,300 --> 01:12:13,960 another direction and then I must have 1290 01:12:21,299 --> 01:12:18,310 been returned to my hotel room I don't 1291 01:12:24,299 --> 01:12:21,309 recall that from the regression and then 1292 01:12:28,379 --> 01:12:24,309 I didn't know anything until I woke up 1293 01:12:32,369 --> 01:12:28,389 with the alarm clock the next morning so 1294 01:12:34,739 --> 01:12:32,379 that was my indication that I really had 1295 01:12:38,939 --> 01:12:34,749 been taken for the making of the crop 1296 01:12:42,989 --> 01:12:38,949 circle and as it turned out the pattern 1297 01:12:46,799 --> 01:12:42,999 of that particular crop circle really 1298 01:12:50,750 --> 01:12:46,809 felt what I had experienced on the 1299 01:12:56,129 --> 01:12:50,760 little craft like a swooshing nor is 1300 01:12:59,879 --> 01:12:56,139 making a circle and it really matched up 1301 01:13:03,419 --> 01:12:59,889 perfectly with what that pattern was so 1302 01:13:09,089 --> 01:13:03,429 that that was really an exquisite 1303 01:13:12,209 --> 01:13:09,099 experience yeah and be straight with me 1304 01:13:22,469 --> 01:13:12,219 okay be really straight and honest did 1305 01:13:26,609 --> 01:13:22,479 you think you were going crazy because 1306 01:13:29,009 --> 01:13:26,619 by that time 1994 I had done so many 1307 01:13:32,219 --> 01:13:29,019 regressions with people to their 1308 01:13:36,089 --> 01:13:32,229 extraterrestrial experiences that it 1309 01:13:39,379 --> 01:13:36,099 seemed really quite normal and I also 1310 01:13:43,189 --> 01:13:39,389 felt very excited and very privileged 1311 01:13:48,209 --> 01:13:43,199 that they had answered my request and 1312 01:13:51,839 --> 01:13:48,219 trusted me in a sense to take for the 1313 01:13:53,939 --> 01:13:51,849 making of the crop circle now with other 1314 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:53,949 researchers out there like bud bud 1315 01:13:59,729 --> 01:13:57,010 Hopkins and and David Jacobs and of 1316 01:14:02,209 --> 01:13:59,739 course there's Yvonne Smith and a lot of 1317 01:14:05,309 --> 01:14:02,219 really great therapists out there but 1318 01:14:09,709 --> 01:14:05,319 then you have the experience or side of 1319 01:14:12,119 --> 01:14:09,719 it where I understand there must be 1320 01:14:13,949 --> 01:14:12,129 thousands of different races that are 1321 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:13,959 coming here there's billions of planets 1322 01:14:20,009 --> 01:14:17,530 and our galaxy and and the universe is 1323 01:14:24,569 --> 01:14:20,019 just so vast and so big it's not just 1324 01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:24,579 one but that being said Barbara there 1325 01:14:29,500 --> 01:14:27,010 are those out there that are not happy 1326 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:29,510 with their experiences and 1327 01:14:37,810 --> 01:14:34,690 and they can be very disturbing mean 1328 01:14:40,300 --> 01:14:37,820 awful and then others out there that 1329 01:14:44,440 --> 01:14:40,310 it's a wonderful experience 1330 01:14:47,410 --> 01:14:44,450 and and they you know so the question of 1331 01:14:50,380 --> 01:14:47,420 being Mennella nor benevolent it sounds 1332 01:14:51,790 --> 01:14:50,390 like your experiences generally have 1333 01:14:53,650 --> 01:14:51,800 been very positive 1334 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:53,660 but then there's the other ones that 1335 01:14:59,290 --> 01:14:56,570 that are really dark and sinister what 1336 01:15:01,390 --> 01:14:59,300 do you think is going on here well I 1337 01:15:04,330 --> 01:15:01,400 think there there is all of what you 1338 01:15:08,260 --> 01:15:04,340 mentioned for sure from a dark and 1339 01:15:11,740 --> 01:15:08,270 sinister ones to more neutral ones once 1340 01:15:15,150 --> 01:15:11,750 we would consider more neutral and and 1341 01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:15,160 then some positive experiences with 1342 01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:19,210 lovely beings and some extremely 1343 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:23,600 positive beings experiences with some of 1344 01:15:33,430 --> 01:15:28,090 these beings and those tend to be 1345 01:15:36,990 --> 01:15:33,440 sometimes more human-like beings and 1346 01:15:40,060 --> 01:15:37,000 sometimes they seem to be 1347 01:15:43,930 --> 01:15:40,070 interdimensional beings some of them are 1348 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:43,940 so benevolent it seems to these people 1349 01:15:50,770 --> 01:15:47,530 who experience them and these beings are 1350 01:15:55,290 --> 01:15:50,780 glowing with light sometimes they're 1351 01:15:58,979 --> 01:15:55,300 almost transparent but described as 1352 01:16:03,580 --> 01:15:58,989 glowing with a beautiful light and a 1353 01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:03,590 feeling of unconditional love that they 1354 01:16:11,530 --> 01:16:07,489 radiate out so I think the difference is 1355 01:16:15,610 --> 01:16:11,540 because there are all these different 1356 01:16:20,110 --> 01:16:15,620 beings some of them definitely seem to 1357 01:16:23,890 --> 01:16:20,120 be more self-serving and they come with 1358 01:16:27,729 --> 01:16:23,900 a specific agenda and they just carry 1359 01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:27,739 out that agenda no matter what like the 1360 01:16:34,630 --> 01:16:31,489 poking and probing and thinking of 1361 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:34,640 different samples of the person's body 1362 01:16:42,540 --> 01:16:38,570 as we hear about quite a bit some of 1363 01:16:47,609 --> 01:16:42,550 those procedures seem very in vain 1364 01:16:52,020 --> 01:16:47,619 and of course not wanted at all and some 1365 01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:52,030 of the beings look pretty frightening to 1366 01:16:58,859 --> 01:16:54,880 the people who experience them for 1367 01:17:03,479 --> 01:16:58,869 instance there are some that looked like 1368 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:03,489 beetles sort of or the little grey 1369 01:17:10,470 --> 01:17:06,610 beings with big heads and spindly little 1370 01:17:13,310 --> 01:17:10,480 bodies and big black eyes that don't 1371 01:17:16,709 --> 01:17:13,320 seem to move you know they have no 1372 01:17:21,649 --> 01:17:16,719 expression in them or expression on the 1373 01:17:25,549 --> 01:17:21,659 faces also some of the reptilian types 1374 01:17:29,399 --> 01:17:25,559 people really do not like having 1375 01:17:34,049 --> 01:17:29,409 encounters with but on the other hand 1376 01:17:37,770 --> 01:17:34,059 there are beings who maybe are great 1377 01:17:40,859 --> 01:17:37,780 type but they're taller and maybe five 1378 01:17:46,919 --> 01:17:40,869 foot seven or eight or so different 1379 01:17:50,430 --> 01:17:46,929 shades of gray or even tan or brown but 1380 01:17:54,780 --> 01:17:50,440 the same general look as what we think 1381 01:17:59,370 --> 01:17:54,790 of as the little greys and those beings 1382 01:18:03,540 --> 01:17:59,380 seem to be more decent and even helpful 1383 01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:03,550 in many cases there were little white 1384 01:18:08,399 --> 01:18:06,489 beings too that are like the little 1385 01:18:14,780 --> 01:18:08,409 greys but they're white and they have 1386 01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:14,790 round eyes with pupils they have 1387 01:18:21,990 --> 01:18:17,920 expressiveness in their eyes and 1388 01:18:25,620 --> 01:18:22,000 expressiveness in their faces and they 1389 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:25,630 have been considered by people who have 1390 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:28,530 those encounters they're considered very 1391 01:18:37,020 --> 01:18:33,610 likeable even lovable so now these are 1392 01:18:41,359 --> 01:18:37,030 their words not my words this is coming 1393 01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:41,369 from the people who experience them so 1394 01:18:50,399 --> 01:18:46,320 anyway there are tall mantis beings and 1395 01:18:52,740 --> 01:18:50,409 I've heard a lot of people being afraid 1396 01:18:54,590 --> 01:18:52,750 at first 1397 01:18:58,260 --> 01:18:54,600 of the Mantis things because they're 1398 01:19:01,020 --> 01:18:58,270 really tall it might be 8 feet tall 1399 01:19:05,370 --> 01:19:01,030 might even be taller than that in some 1400 01:19:09,830 --> 01:19:05,380 cases and they look like a great big bug 1401 01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:09,840 a man a praying mantis short looking bug 1402 01:19:18,870 --> 01:19:14,880 so I've had mixed reports on those two 1403 01:19:22,710 --> 01:19:18,880 some before their regrets to those 1404 01:19:26,700 --> 01:19:22,720 experiences might have a glimpse of one 1405 01:19:28,940 --> 01:19:26,710 of the Mantis beings in their memory but 1406 01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:28,950 when we regress to one of those 1407 01:19:38,540 --> 01:19:33,370 experiences so far at least those 1408 01:19:44,060 --> 01:19:38,550 Melton's beings tend to be very very 1409 01:19:52,140 --> 01:19:44,070 benevolent and caring even loving and 1410 01:19:56,670 --> 01:19:52,150 wise kindly and even in one case of the 1411 01:20:00,680 --> 01:19:56,680 very tall white mantis being was very 1412 01:20:04,140 --> 01:20:00,690 playful with a four year old girl who 1413 01:20:08,850 --> 01:20:04,150 had an encounter with my client her 1414 01:20:12,900 --> 01:20:08,860 grandmother and so that helped me to get 1415 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:12,910 quite a different look on the Mantis 1416 01:20:19,050 --> 01:20:16,090 being said some of them you know are 1417 01:20:21,780 --> 01:20:19,060 really wonderful to have experiences 1418 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:21,790 with according to the people who've had 1419 01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:26,770 those experiences so you know some 1420 01:20:33,530 --> 01:20:30,490 people will have an experience with so 1421 01:20:35,970 --> 01:20:33,540 many different types of 1422 01:20:39,740 --> 01:20:35,980 extraterrestrials in different 1423 01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:39,750 encounters from the little grey beings 1424 01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:44,560 and the taller gray type although they 1425 01:20:53,970 --> 01:20:49,330 may be brown or tan and human looking 1426 01:20:57,930 --> 01:20:53,980 Nordic we call them beings and mantis 1427 01:21:01,580 --> 01:20:57,940 beings and reptilian beings and all 1428 01:21:04,930 --> 01:21:01,590 kinds of other beings even aquatic 1429 01:21:10,870 --> 01:21:04,940 beings or luminous 1430 01:21:14,410 --> 01:21:10,880 ooh being such as from Arcturus and tall 1431 01:21:19,140 --> 01:21:14,420 white SATA beings and dolphin-like 1432 01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:19,150 beings so I'm just mentioning a few of 1433 01:21:27,430 --> 01:21:23,570 the many types so it's very difficult to 1434 01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:27,440 really generalize too much about these 1435 01:21:34,030 --> 01:21:30,650 beings and I have people coming up to me 1436 01:21:36,670 --> 01:21:34,040 sometimes and saying well what are the 1437 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:36,680 extraterrestrials like right right 1438 01:21:45,070 --> 01:21:39,890 that's my next question of course and so 1439 01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:45,080 I have to say well it depends on which 1440 01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:47,690 type you're asking about because there 1441 01:21:54,070 --> 01:21:51,050 are so many different types and they do 1442 01:21:57,660 --> 01:21:54,080 really seem to come here for different 1443 01:22:02,490 --> 01:21:57,670 reasons as I said they have their own 1444 01:22:08,620 --> 01:22:02,500 agendas now some of these beings are 1445 01:22:10,990 --> 01:22:08,630 very very caring about humanity and they 1446 01:22:15,580 --> 01:22:11,000 have shown that in quite a number of 1447 01:22:20,020 --> 01:22:15,590 ways in fact I've give whole 90-minute 1448 01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:20,030 lectures just on that aspect about the 1449 01:22:29,220 --> 01:22:23,930 ones that really show great compassion 1450 01:22:32,380 --> 01:22:29,230 and caring for humanity as a whole and 1451 01:22:37,870 --> 01:22:32,390 compassion and caring for the individual 1452 01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:37,880 people they encounter and there are many 1453 01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:44,090 cases of extraterrestrials even rescuing 1454 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:48,050 people people who've been lost or people 1455 01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:50,410 who are in trouble I have specific 1456 01:22:57,570 --> 01:22:53,930 examples of adverts hi given some of my 1457 01:23:03,340 --> 01:22:57,580 talks and and they're very concerned 1458 01:23:08,140 --> 01:23:03,350 many of them about planet Earth and what 1459 01:23:09,729 --> 01:23:08,150 we humans are doing to the earth ruining 1460 01:23:13,270 --> 01:23:09,739 it in many ways 1461 01:23:15,729 --> 01:23:13,280 bit by bit here and there and we know 1462 01:23:18,260 --> 01:23:15,739 all this too but the thing is that 1463 01:23:22,370 --> 01:23:18,270 they're very concerned about this 1464 01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:22,380 and they would like so much to see us 1465 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:25,650 change some of our practices and be 1466 01:23:32,150 --> 01:23:28,530 taking much better care of the earth 1467 01:23:35,630 --> 01:23:32,160 rather than plundering the earth and 1468 01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:35,640 ruining the earth they're particularly 1469 01:23:43,550 --> 01:23:39,290 and they're very vocal about this of 1470 01:23:47,780 --> 01:23:43,560 concerned about our nuclear capability 1471 01:23:51,950 --> 01:23:47,790 and they know that we could totally ruin 1472 01:23:54,860 --> 01:23:51,960 all life on the earth if we start 1473 01:23:58,670 --> 01:23:54,870 setting off nuclear weapons in fact 1474 01:24:01,720 --> 01:23:58,680 we're already ruining a lot of aspects 1475 01:24:05,740 --> 01:24:01,730 of the earth with all the testing that 1476 01:24:10,220 --> 01:24:05,750 we've done of atomic bombs and nuclear 1477 01:24:15,220 --> 01:24:10,230 bombs and nuclear weapons and they say 1478 01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:15,230 that not only do they not want to see a 1479 01:24:21,770 --> 01:24:18,570 totally ruined and humanity and all life 1480 01:24:25,060 --> 01:24:21,780 on earth extinguished which we could 1481 01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:25,070 really do with our nuclear capability 1482 01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:29,250 but even beyond that they say that if we 1483 01:24:38,780 --> 01:24:34,850 start sending off nuclear equipment 1484 01:24:41,780 --> 01:24:38,790 radiation would rise not only throughout 1485 01:24:44,630 --> 01:24:41,790 the earth and not only throughout the 1486 01:24:49,130 --> 01:24:44,640 solar system but would even reach 1487 01:24:51,860 --> 01:24:49,140 planets beyond our solar system so 1488 01:24:55,180 --> 01:24:51,870 that's of course a very good reason for 1489 01:24:59,120 --> 01:24:55,190 them wanting us to stop doing anything 1490 01:25:02,870 --> 01:24:59,130 with nuclear material even nuclear power 1491 01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:02,880 plants which of course can bleak as we 1492 01:25:11,810 --> 01:25:06,810 know mm-hmm so so they're concerned for 1493 01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:11,820 us and for themselves and rightfully so 1494 01:25:18,140 --> 01:25:14,850 oh I think so 1495 01:25:22,700 --> 01:25:18,150 with that caring about earth I think 1496 01:25:25,850 --> 01:25:22,710 that that brings them to earth a lot 1497 01:25:28,390 --> 01:25:25,860 many different types and that's why we 1498 01:25:32,590 --> 01:25:28,400 see UFOs 1499 01:25:35,710 --> 01:25:32,600 because they really do come here so so 1500 01:25:39,070 --> 01:25:35,720 there are those more scientifically 1501 01:25:45,370 --> 01:25:39,080 oriented extraterrestrials who come and 1502 01:25:50,140 --> 01:25:45,380 check out things and and even they turn 1503 01:25:52,300 --> 01:25:50,150 off our nuclear warheads short got all a 1504 01:25:55,930 --> 01:25:52,310 m-- and ready to go at the push of a 1505 01:26:00,280 --> 01:25:55,940 button and there are several examples of 1506 01:26:03,220 --> 01:26:00,290 these nuclear missile silos where the 1507 01:26:07,470 --> 01:26:03,230 missiles in different parts of the world 1508 01:26:11,230 --> 01:26:07,480 have been decommissioned by the 1509 01:26:14,770 --> 01:26:11,240 extraterrestrials they don't want those 1510 01:26:17,260 --> 01:26:14,780 things going off anymore than we want 1511 01:26:21,250 --> 01:26:17,270 them to to go off no they want as they 1512 01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:21,260 want to hang out here too as well yeah I 1513 01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:23,570 think I think probably some of them do 1514 01:26:30,580 --> 01:26:27,040 and so some of it's sort of for 1515 01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:30,590 enlightened self-interest on their part 1516 01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:33,970 but but a lot of it too is that they 1517 01:26:43,830 --> 01:26:38,050 express some of them really caring for 1518 01:26:49,540 --> 01:26:43,840 Humanity you know way back in 1982 I 1519 01:26:52,750 --> 01:26:49,550 came across the book called UFO contact 1520 01:26:55,930 --> 01:26:52,760 from the Pleiades this was the Billy 1521 01:26:58,990 --> 01:26:55,940 Meyer material and I found the book on 1522 01:27:01,530 --> 01:26:59,000 the coffee table of a friend and had a 1523 01:27:07,570 --> 01:27:01,540 few minutes to look at it and I was 1524 01:27:11,730 --> 01:27:07,580 amazed at these photographs of UFOs that 1525 01:27:14,890 --> 01:27:11,740 Billy Meyer and Switzerland took and 1526 01:27:19,630 --> 01:27:14,900 also I was impressed with the writing in 1527 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:19,640 that book there were quotes from these 1528 01:27:27,150 --> 01:27:23,090 beings from the Pleiades and the 1529 01:27:31,750 --> 01:27:27,160 Pleiadians said that they consider us 1530 01:27:36,370 --> 01:27:31,760 humans as we would consider little 1531 01:27:40,150 --> 01:27:36,380 brothers so they knew that we needed 1532 01:27:41,830 --> 01:27:40,160 some help that we had some development 1533 01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:41,840 that we could do in 1534 01:27:49,330 --> 01:27:44,330 better directions and they were really 1535 01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:49,340 very caring about us well that was 1536 01:27:56,890 --> 01:27:52,730 before I knew that extraterrestrials and 1537 01:28:02,320 --> 01:27:56,900 UFOs were real but I was very impressed 1538 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:02,330 with that and at that time I hoped that 1539 01:28:09,610 --> 01:28:06,050 that was true I didn't know yet that it 1540 01:28:12,210 --> 01:28:09,620 was true but I dearly hope so and I 1541 01:28:15,070 --> 01:28:12,220 thought isn't that wonderful that 1542 01:28:20,710 --> 01:28:15,080 there's someone else in the universe 1543 01:28:24,130 --> 01:28:20,720 that is aware of us and cares about us 1544 01:28:27,610 --> 01:28:24,140 humans and they can actually come here 1545 01:28:29,620 --> 01:28:27,620 and they can be photographed or their 1546 01:28:33,310 --> 01:28:29,630 crafts at least could be photographed 1547 01:28:36,790 --> 01:28:33,320 and Wow I hope that's true 1548 01:28:39,790 --> 01:28:36,800 so as I've come through all these years 1549 01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:39,800 of doing this work now I really trust 1550 01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:43,010 that indeed it is true let's take a 1551 01:28:47,020 --> 01:28:45,050 break right here Barbara our guest 1552 01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:47,030 tonight Barbara lamb I am your host 1553 01:28:52,030 --> 01:28:48,770 immatures this is fade to black 1554 01:28:54,580 --> 01:28:52,040 I'm Kay GRA the planet and the game 1555 01:28:55,210 --> 01:28:54,590 changer Network more with Barbara after 1556 01:28:58,700 --> 01:28:55,220 this short break 1557 01:29:14,490 --> 01:29:04,660 [Music] 1558 01:29:21,729 --> 01:29:17,700 way out here we listen to Jimmy Church 1559 01:29:24,010 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[Music] 1657 01:34:42,810 --> 01:34:40,560 welcome back fade to black now I am your 1658 01:34:44,850 --> 01:34:42,820 host Jimmy Church tonight our guest is 1659 01:34:48,770 --> 01:34:44,860 barbara Lam you can follow me on twitter 1660 01:34:53,070 --> 01:34:48,780 at JDO join the conversation 1661 01:34:54,900 --> 01:34:53,080 hashtag f2b and come and hang out on the 1662 01:34:58,590 --> 01:34:54,910 sandbox of course we have the chat rooms 1663 01:35:02,760 --> 01:34:58,600 open too as well and Barbara before we 1664 01:35:05,310 --> 01:35:02,770 get to hybrids and and and DNA which I 1665 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:05,320 want to spend the rest of the show on a 1666 01:35:10,590 --> 01:35:07,090 couple of quick questions about 1667 01:35:12,810 --> 01:35:10,600 regression why do some including 1668 01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:12,820 yourself because of what you just said 1669 01:35:18,500 --> 01:35:14,770 when you will regress why do some 1670 01:35:21,630 --> 01:35:18,510 remember and some don't 1671 01:35:24,660 --> 01:35:21,640 well do you mean why does some remember 1672 01:35:27,270 --> 01:35:24,670 the whole experience before they have a 1673 01:35:30,180 --> 01:35:27,280 regression there's that part well 1674 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:30,190 there's that part it's it's a it's a 1675 01:35:34,410 --> 01:35:32,770 general question because it's it's that 1676 01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:34,420 aspect of it and then there's the 1677 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:37,690 regression therapy itself or some don't 1678 01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:40,210 remember the the the regression therapy 1679 01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:43,090 and some do and remember everything that 1680 01:35:48,150 --> 01:35:46,330 you know it's it's really strange how 1681 01:35:51,510 --> 01:35:48,160 how it all works 1682 01:35:51,980 --> 01:35:51,520 so yes why does some remember and some 1683 01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:51,990 don't 1684 01:35:58,830 --> 01:35:55,810 well first of all most people do not 1685 01:36:02,720 --> 01:35:58,840 remember very much about the regression 1686 01:36:08,820 --> 01:36:02,730 I mean very much about the encounter 1687 01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:08,830 without having a regression the beings 1688 01:36:16,860 --> 01:36:12,370 come for a person and usually the person 1689 01:36:20,940 --> 01:36:16,870 is aware of just the first few several 1690 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:20,950 moments that there are beings there or 1691 01:36:27,900 --> 01:36:24,010 there's a bright light coming into the 1692 01:36:31,220 --> 01:36:27,910 room or little sparkles of light or orbs 1693 01:36:33,990 --> 01:36:31,230 of light flying around and they might 1694 01:36:37,290 --> 01:36:34,000 wake up in the middle of the night and 1695 01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:37,300 see that there are beings there in the 1696 01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:39,760 room standing near the bed and they 1697 01:36:45,150 --> 01:36:43,210 might be aware as long as to realize 1698 01:36:48,770 --> 01:36:45,160 that they can't move 1699 01:36:53,160 --> 01:36:48,780 and they can't call out that can usually 1700 01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:53,170 turn their eyes but not any other part 1701 01:36:59,790 --> 01:36:55,570 of their body and then they usually are 1702 01:37:04,050 --> 01:36:59,800 made to be out of consciousness for the 1703 01:37:06,780 --> 01:37:04,060 rest of the experience so that's without 1704 01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:06,790 regression this is just the actual 1705 01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:10,690 experience itself so the rest of the 1706 01:37:16,410 --> 01:37:12,490 experience is something they're not 1707 01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:16,420 consciously aware of except that after 1708 01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:19,930 such an encounter somebody might have a 1709 01:37:30,060 --> 01:37:25,570 very quick flashback of some aspect of 1710 01:37:33,870 --> 01:37:30,070 that whole encounter but usually they 1711 01:37:37,830 --> 01:37:33,880 don't remember very much beyond that now 1712 01:37:40,440 --> 01:37:37,840 when they do a regression what I have 1713 01:37:45,540 --> 01:37:40,450 found with most people and it's been 1714 01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:45,550 about 3700 regressions I've done with 1715 01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:48,490 that almost 2,000 people because some of 1716 01:37:56,370 --> 01:37:51,730 them have had many regressions and so 1717 01:37:59,870 --> 01:37:56,380 typically they will remember most of the 1718 01:38:03,420 --> 01:37:59,880 regression but there will be some 1719 01:38:07,470 --> 01:38:03,430 details usually that they do not 1720 01:38:11,460 --> 01:38:07,480 remember so that's why I think it's very 1721 01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:11,470 important to record the session right I 1722 01:38:18,630 --> 01:38:15,210 used to do that with audio tapes but I 1723 01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:18,640 gave up on that when I was finding that 1724 01:38:24,500 --> 01:38:21,570 most people because we've gone digital 1725 01:38:28,020 --> 01:38:24,510 that most people had given away their 1726 01:38:31,500 --> 01:38:28,030 tape recorders and no longer had 1727 01:38:33,330 --> 01:38:31,510 anything to play a tape on for a couple 1728 01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:33,340 of years now two or three years I've 1729 01:38:38,700 --> 01:38:35,890 encouraged people to do their own 1730 01:38:42,450 --> 01:38:38,710 recording on their own cell phone and 1731 01:38:45,090 --> 01:38:42,460 then they can listen to it again I think 1732 01:38:47,610 --> 01:38:45,100 it's helpful to for them to listen to 1733 01:38:50,610 --> 01:38:47,620 the recording of the regression again 1734 01:38:55,740 --> 01:38:50,620 sometime when they feel like it because 1735 01:38:58,650 --> 01:38:55,750 there will be some details some aspects 1736 01:38:58,950 --> 01:38:58,660 of the encounter that they'll hear for 1737 01:39:19,950 --> 01:38:58,960 the 1738 01:39:24,380 --> 01:39:19,960 what about I'm gonna go dark or a little 1739 01:39:28,440 --> 01:39:24,390 bit dark here and that if there's an 1740 01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:28,450 overwhelming amount of positive et 1741 01:39:37,850 --> 01:39:32,850 contact that the some of that positive 1742 01:39:40,770 --> 01:39:37,860 contact are implanted positive memories 1743 01:39:44,220 --> 01:39:40,780 to cover up something that may not have 1744 01:39:47,750 --> 01:39:44,230 been so positive well I know that there 1745 01:39:53,970 --> 01:39:47,760 is that theory and if it seems to be 1746 01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:53,980 something that the person or I in doubt 1747 01:39:59,840 --> 01:39:56,170 about we can always do the regression 1748 01:40:04,290 --> 01:39:59,850 again if the person is willing and see 1749 01:40:07,890 --> 01:40:04,300 if it's exactly the same details the 1750 01:40:10,770 --> 01:40:07,900 same memories that come up again or if 1751 01:40:13,140 --> 01:40:10,780 something that seemed to be positive 1752 01:40:16,740 --> 01:40:13,150 seems to be covering something more 1753 01:40:21,330 --> 01:40:16,750 negative I know that that is a theory 1754 01:40:24,330 --> 01:40:21,340 that David Jacobs has I know David 1755 01:40:27,209 --> 01:40:24,340 Jacobs I'm very fond of him as a person 1756 01:40:31,500 --> 01:40:27,219 we find very different results in 1757 01:40:35,130 --> 01:40:31,510 certain aspects of our work but who who 1758 01:40:37,979 --> 01:40:35,140 knows why that is but you know he he 1759 01:40:39,750 --> 01:40:37,989 often feels that oh it couldn't really 1760 01:40:42,870 --> 01:40:39,760 be a positive experience 1761 01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:42,880 it must be covering up something pretty 1762 01:40:50,850 --> 01:40:48,489 nasty mm-hmm I personally am feeling 1763 01:40:54,959 --> 01:40:50,860 more acceptable about some of these 1764 01:40:57,270 --> 01:40:54,969 encounters being very positive I went 1765 01:40:58,830 --> 01:40:57,280 through I'm not gonna spend any time on 1766 01:41:03,330 --> 01:40:58,840 this at all I've talked about a way too 1767 01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:03,340 much but I went through an experience of 1768 01:41:10,450 --> 01:41:05,930 something being in my room 1769 01:41:12,370 --> 01:41:10,460 and this was around 1995 but what was 1770 01:41:15,670 --> 01:41:12,380 strange about that I didn't I didn't 1771 01:41:18,970 --> 01:41:15,680 share the experience with anybody and as 1772 01:41:22,270 --> 01:41:18,980 I mean for years now I talk about it all 1773 01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:22,280 the time but anyway I I didn't share the 1774 01:41:29,110 --> 01:41:27,050 experience but what I did I knew I knew 1775 01:41:35,260 --> 01:41:29,120 what had happened with me personally and 1776 01:41:38,940 --> 01:41:35,270 as I research these types of experiences 1777 01:41:43,180 --> 01:41:38,950 that I saw over and over again nearly 1778 01:41:45,250 --> 01:41:43,190 exactly what I had gone through and that 1779 01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:45,260 did two things to me Barbara that let me 1780 01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:48,290 know that I wasn't crazy but it also 1781 01:41:54,460 --> 01:41:50,210 scared the crap out of me that it was 1782 01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:54,470 actually real right I wasn't and then 1783 01:41:59,430 --> 01:41:56,930 there was the the strange little third 1784 01:42:02,950 --> 01:41:59,440 thing that has been hanging out there 1785 01:42:05,500 --> 01:42:02,960 about should I be regressed should I go 1786 01:42:07,990 --> 01:42:05,510 back and and find out what happened in 1787 01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:08,000 that 15 minutes that I remember and you 1788 01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:11,570 know what my answer is what no I don't 1789 01:42:18,850 --> 01:42:15,170 want to know I don't I don't want to 1790 01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:18,860 know I don't want I don't want to know 1791 01:42:26,170 --> 01:42:21,890 it took me years to deal with it on my 1792 01:42:29,310 --> 01:42:26,180 own terms anyway I just don't want to go 1793 01:42:31,990 --> 01:42:29,320 there well you know I think that is very 1794 01:42:37,060 --> 01:42:32,000 understandable because for one thing 1795 01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:37,070 there's been a lot of news about people 1796 01:42:42,790 --> 01:42:40,690 having really frightful experiences and 1797 01:42:45,100 --> 01:42:42,800 of course you don't want to open 1798 01:42:48,220 --> 01:42:45,110 yourself up to finding out something 1799 01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:48,230 like that in other words before you 1800 01:42:53,860 --> 01:42:50,290 really look into it there's no 1801 01:42:57,910 --> 01:42:53,870 reassurance that you're going to be okay 1802 01:43:00,700 --> 01:42:57,920 with what you find or even pleased with 1803 01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:00,710 what you find as some people are and 1804 01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:03,770 you're really taking a chance and I 1805 01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:06,410 think that's something that I can 1806 01:43:12,430 --> 01:43:09,410 perfectly well respect that you may not 1807 01:43:14,290 --> 01:43:12,440 want to do that yeah and I don't want to 1808 01:43:17,740 --> 01:43:14,300 stop anybody out there from going and 1809 01:43:19,660 --> 01:43:17,750 doing it don't listen to me this is just 1810 01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:19,670 my way of dealing with 1811 01:43:23,830 --> 01:43:22,130 you know and everybody everybody's got a 1812 01:43:25,300 --> 01:43:23,840 different way of looking at it and if 1813 01:43:28,270 --> 01:43:25,310 you feel that is something that you want 1814 01:43:30,700 --> 01:43:28,280 to do go and do it but with me 1815 01:43:39,520 --> 01:43:30,710 personally me you know what I just don't 1816 01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:39,530 want to know now which leads us into I 1817 01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:42,050 want to talk about hybrids and this 1818 01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:46,250 aspect of things because there is there 1819 01:43:52,060 --> 01:43:49,610 must be an agenda no matter who was 1820 01:43:54,460 --> 01:43:52,070 visiting this planet they're not coming 1821 01:43:56,230 --> 01:43:54,470 here to waste their time well maybe 1822 01:43:58,720 --> 01:43:56,240 they're coming here for a vacation and 1823 01:44:00,160 --> 01:43:58,730 they just want to hang out but they are 1824 01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:00,170 here for a purpose 1825 01:44:09,820 --> 01:44:05,570 and we have seen the changes in in Homo 1826 01:44:13,180 --> 01:44:09,830 Sapien Sabin Sabian and it is such an 1827 01:44:15,700 --> 01:44:13,190 obvious thing where we are the only ones 1828 01:44:17,770 --> 01:44:15,710 that are like us on this planet that 1829 01:44:20,950 --> 01:44:17,780 that's it there isn't anything else like 1830 01:44:23,140 --> 01:44:20,960 us but we certainly seem to have just 1831 01:44:25,750 --> 01:44:23,150 appeared here on this planet 200 1832 01:44:28,090 --> 01:44:25,760 thousand years ago and without any 1833 01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:28,100 evolution to support that there is no 1834 01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:32,570 missing link and to that end is is that 1835 01:44:40,870 --> 01:44:36,170 a possibility where we were interfered 1836 01:44:43,630 --> 01:44:40,880 with or maybe created or modified well 1837 01:44:45,340 --> 01:44:43,640 it certainly is a possibility and I 1838 01:44:48,700 --> 01:44:45,350 think nowadays we're hearing more and 1839 01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:48,710 more about that possibility of course 1840 01:44:54,910 --> 01:44:52,370 there's Zecharia Sitchin's work which of 1841 01:44:58,000 --> 01:44:54,920 course is very very interesting about 1842 01:45:03,430 --> 01:44:58,010 the Anunnaki extraterrestrials coming 1843 01:45:08,440 --> 01:45:03,440 from planet Nibiru way back of long time 1844 01:45:12,660 --> 01:45:08,450 ago and taking the very primitive life 1845 01:45:16,210 --> 01:45:12,670 maybe we could even call it pre human 1846 01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:16,220 development of hominids and doing 1847 01:45:23,710 --> 01:45:18,730 genetic engineering with them and 1848 01:45:26,380 --> 01:45:23,720 creating the early human beings that 1849 01:45:31,060 --> 01:45:26,390 would be the missing link aspect that 1850 01:45:32,629 --> 01:45:31,070 you mentioned and then over a period of 1851 01:45:37,180 --> 01:45:32,639 time probably century 1852 01:45:41,270 --> 01:45:37,190 guess they did more genetic tweaking 1853 01:45:46,910 --> 01:45:41,280 until we became Homo sapiens sapiens as 1854 01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:46,920 we know us nowadays so I think that that 1855 01:45:54,649 --> 01:45:50,880 is a very likely possibility I don't 1856 01:45:58,189 --> 01:45:54,659 think there's been any proof of that but 1857 01:46:02,030 --> 01:45:58,199 it's a very compelling theory and it 1858 01:46:05,450 --> 01:46:02,040 could very well be true in in my opinion 1859 01:46:08,689 --> 01:46:05,460 and it could be true also that over a 1860 01:46:13,850 --> 01:46:08,699 period of time Homo sapiens sapiens has 1861 01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:13,860 been genetically modified a bit here and 1862 01:46:21,709 --> 01:46:17,730 there until here we are the way that we 1863 01:46:25,820 --> 01:46:21,719 are now in the 21st century so it could 1864 01:46:29,870 --> 01:46:25,830 be again I want to underline could it's 1865 01:46:35,870 --> 01:46:29,880 the possibility we could all as humans 1866 01:46:40,220 --> 01:46:35,880 be hybrids in that sense that they added 1867 01:46:43,430 --> 01:46:40,230 some of their genetics their DNA out of 1868 01:46:47,379 --> 01:46:43,440 the more primitive form that we were a 1869 01:46:52,700 --> 01:46:47,389 long time ago and now we are the humans 1870 01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:52,710 which we know and are so that's a very 1871 01:46:59,450 --> 01:46:55,489 interesting theory and then there's 1872 01:47:03,399 --> 01:46:59,460 something more current happening and has 1873 01:47:06,859 --> 01:47:03,409 been happening for quite a while two 1874 01:47:10,070 --> 01:47:06,869 categories of hybrids which I've been 1875 01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:10,080 paying quite a bit of attention to for 1876 01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:13,730 some years now so the first category of 1877 01:47:23,149 --> 01:47:18,449 hybrids is that there are hybrids living 1878 01:47:26,810 --> 01:47:23,159 on the ships and rather than living on 1879 01:47:31,910 --> 01:47:26,820 earth and these are hybrids created by 1880 01:47:36,050 --> 01:47:31,920 the mixture of an extraterrestrial and a 1881 01:47:38,450 --> 01:47:36,060 human so probably many of your listeners 1882 01:47:41,330 --> 01:47:38,460 are aware that there have been many 1883 01:47:43,290 --> 01:47:41,340 women who have had eggs taken from their 1884 01:47:49,060 --> 01:47:43,300 ovaries 1885 01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:49,070 abductions and then those eggs have been 1886 01:47:57,460 --> 01:47:54,010 put into a little petri dish type of 1887 01:47:59,290 --> 01:47:57,470 equipment on board the ship and a little 1888 01:48:02,710 --> 01:47:59,300 fetus and embryo 1889 01:48:06,970 --> 01:48:02,720 I should say has been created with a 1890 01:48:09,730 --> 01:48:06,980 mixture of the woman's eggs and the 1891 01:48:12,790 --> 01:48:09,740 extra-terrestrial genetic and 1892 01:48:17,170 --> 01:48:12,800 reproductive material so that little 1893 01:48:20,310 --> 01:48:17,180 embryo is then well is hybrid of course 1894 01:48:24,250 --> 01:48:20,320 and that little embryo is implanted 1895 01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:24,260 again into the human mother in another 1896 01:48:32,260 --> 01:48:27,850 abduction and she carries that embryo 1897 01:48:35,650 --> 01:48:32,270 for one to three months and then she is 1898 01:48:40,350 --> 01:48:35,660 taken again and that little embryo is 1899 01:48:43,950 --> 01:48:40,360 removed from her and put into a 1900 01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:43,960 gestation tank onboard the spacecraft 1901 01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:48,650 and that little embryo grows into a 1902 01:48:56,670 --> 01:48:52,130 fetus and then into what looks more like 1903 01:49:00,370 --> 01:48:56,680 a baby and at a certain time when the 1904 01:49:03,630 --> 01:49:00,380 extraterrestrials tending to this tank 1905 01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:03,640 of fluid with the little life inside it 1906 01:49:12,910 --> 01:49:07,970 when they determine that the life is 1907 01:49:15,240 --> 01:49:12,920 mature enough to be born it is removed 1908 01:49:18,580 --> 01:49:15,250 from the tank and wrapped up in 1909 01:49:22,900 --> 01:49:18,590 swaddling clothes and put in kind of an 1910 01:49:27,970 --> 01:49:22,910 incubator like shells and then raised as 1911 01:49:30,730 --> 01:49:27,980 a hybrid baby and a hybrid child and if 1912 01:49:33,790 --> 01:49:30,740 that new life lives long enough it 1913 01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:33,800 becomes a hybrid teenager and even a 1914 01:49:42,700 --> 01:49:37,970 hybrid adult but those hybrids which are 1915 01:49:46,690 --> 01:49:42,710 half extraterrestrial and half human 1916 01:49:47,939 --> 01:49:46,700 they continue to live their life on the 1917 01:49:51,570 --> 01:49:47,949 spaceship 1918 01:49:55,919 --> 01:49:51,580 with the other extraterrestrials usually 1919 01:49:59,280 --> 01:49:55,929 a mixture of extraterrestrial types or 1920 01:50:02,880 --> 01:49:59,290 maybe they live on another planet in 1921 01:50:07,350 --> 01:50:02,890 some cases rather than on the ship but 1922 01:50:12,140 --> 01:50:07,360 they never do live here on earth because 1923 01:50:17,130 --> 01:50:12,150 they're not proportionately enough human 1924 01:50:21,060 --> 01:50:17,140 to survive here nor would they really 1925 01:50:24,390 --> 01:50:21,070 pass here among human civilization 1926 01:50:27,510 --> 01:50:24,400 because they would look to different now 1927 01:50:32,790 --> 01:50:27,520 those hybrid children living on the 1928 01:50:37,290 --> 01:50:32,800 ships often get visited by the mother 1929 01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:37,300 who had contributed the eggs or in some 1930 01:50:46,350 --> 01:50:42,010 cases the human father from whom sperm 1931 01:50:50,340 --> 01:50:46,360 had been removed in order to make a 1932 01:50:53,189 --> 01:50:50,350 hybrid baby and so the mother or the 1933 01:50:58,650 --> 01:50:53,199 father or sometimes both will be taken 1934 01:51:00,780 --> 01:50:58,660 to view the baby and hold the baby and 1935 01:51:03,689 --> 01:51:00,790 it's explained to them that it's 1936 01:51:07,280 --> 01:51:03,699 important for the mother especially to 1937 01:51:12,209 --> 01:51:07,290 hold the hybrid baby and nurture and 1938 01:51:15,830 --> 01:51:12,219 cuddle the baby because since the hybrid 1939 01:51:20,490 --> 01:51:15,840 is half human they have learned that 1940 01:51:25,100 --> 01:51:20,500 that little hybrid baby needs absolutely 1941 01:51:28,260 --> 01:51:25,110 needs that affection from the mother and 1942 01:51:32,510 --> 01:51:28,270 the same is true of the father but not 1943 01:51:37,260 --> 01:51:32,520 quite to the extent as with the mother 1944 01:51:39,990 --> 01:51:37,270 okay so that kind of hybrid is the first 1945 01:51:44,220 --> 01:51:40,000 type that I am talking about they live 1946 01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:44,230 their lives elsewhere and then those 1947 01:51:53,430 --> 01:51:49,810 hybrids when old enough like age 12 or 1948 01:51:58,910 --> 01:51:53,440 13 or so when they become sexually 1949 01:52:03,910 --> 01:51:58,920 mature enough they combine with 1950 01:52:07,700 --> 01:52:03,920 another human an abducted human so that 1951 01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:07,710 offspring of course is two-thirds human 1952 01:52:15,610 --> 01:52:11,730 and one-third extraterrestrial and when 1953 01:52:19,700 --> 01:52:15,620 that offspring of that combination is 1954 01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:19,710 mature enough the offspring will combine 1955 01:52:28,100 --> 01:52:24,210 with yet another human so pretty soon 1956 01:52:32,780 --> 01:52:28,110 you get more and more human Ness in 1957 01:52:36,470 --> 01:52:32,790 proportion and so it is thought that 1958 01:52:40,010 --> 01:52:36,480 perhaps after enough generations those 1959 01:52:43,820 --> 01:52:40,020 hybrids might live on earth 1960 01:52:48,770 --> 01:52:43,830 I don't know personally of any hybrids 1961 01:52:51,050 --> 01:52:48,780 of that type that live on earth maybe 1962 01:52:53,690 --> 01:52:51,060 maybe there are some maybe there aren't 1963 01:52:57,740 --> 01:52:53,700 but they're not within my scope of 1964 01:53:01,730 --> 01:52:57,750 knowing about it but I do know about a 1965 01:53:03,980 --> 01:53:01,740 whole different group of hybrids and 1966 01:53:07,630 --> 01:53:03,990 these are the hybrids that I've written 1967 01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:07,640 about in my book called meet the hybrids 1968 01:53:15,130 --> 01:53:11,610 co-authored with Miguel Mendonca a 1969 01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:15,140 wonderful man in England who's been very 1970 01:53:23,420 --> 01:53:17,970 interested in all of this said a very 1971 01:53:28,370 --> 01:53:23,430 good writer so these hybrids ET human 1972 01:53:32,330 --> 01:53:28,380 hybrids these hybrids are made in 1973 01:53:37,820 --> 01:53:32,340 somewhat of a different way that they 1974 01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:37,830 were all born here on earth from a human 1975 01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:41,970 mother and the human father but either 1976 01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:47,370 before conception or during the life in 1977 01:53:52,700 --> 01:53:48,770 the mother's womb 1978 01:53:55,970 --> 01:53:52,710 they were hybridized in other words in a 1979 01:54:00,400 --> 01:53:55,980 couple of cases the extraterrestrials 1980 01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:00,410 took eggs from the human mother and 1981 01:54:08,900 --> 01:54:04,050 sperm from the human father and combined 1982 01:54:12,010 --> 01:54:08,910 that with the extraterrestrial genetics 1983 01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:12,020 of usually more than one type 1984 01:54:18,740 --> 01:54:15,050 extraterrestrial to might even be a few 1985 01:54:22,490 --> 01:54:18,750 different types all working together so 1986 01:54:25,729 --> 01:54:22,500 they create a little embryo ET and human 1987 01:54:29,990 --> 01:54:25,739 and then implant that in the mother and 1988 01:54:32,830 --> 01:54:30,000 leave that embryo in the mother so that 1989 01:54:38,990 --> 01:54:32,840 that embryo develops into a fetus and 1990 01:54:42,890 --> 01:54:39,000 into a regular baby already hybridized 1991 01:54:47,750 --> 01:54:42,900 and gets born here on earth the way that 1992 01:54:52,209 --> 01:54:47,760 we all do now another method of 1993 01:54:56,300 --> 01:54:52,219 hybridization with this type of being is 1994 01:55:00,920 --> 01:54:56,310 that the mother is already pregnant with 1995 01:55:04,610 --> 01:55:00,930 this firm from the father human and then 1996 01:55:09,050 --> 01:55:04,620 during the gestation period during the 1997 01:55:13,550 --> 01:55:09,060 pregnancy of the mother the mother is 1998 01:55:17,630 --> 01:55:13,560 taken on the ship and is ejected through 1999 01:55:20,090 --> 01:55:17,640 the wall of the uterus the wall of the 2000 01:55:22,820 --> 01:55:20,100 stomach and the uterus and into the the 2001 01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:22,830 fetus inside that little fetus is 2002 01:55:30,500 --> 01:55:26,330 injected with the extraterrestrial 2003 01:55:34,220 --> 01:55:30,510 genetics and becomes hybridized at that 2004 01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:34,230 point so that seems to be a very common 2005 01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:40,290 way a fetus becoming hybridized one of 2006 01:55:47,900 --> 01:55:43,650 the women in our study in meat the 2007 01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:47,910 hybrids did not become hybridized until 2008 01:55:55,670 --> 01:55:52,890 she was aged 6 hmm and she was 2009 01:55:59,570 --> 01:55:55,680 hybridized by being taken by the beings 2010 01:56:03,070 --> 01:55:59,580 and injected right directly into her 2011 01:56:07,459 --> 01:56:03,080 body injected with the extra-terrestrial 2012 01:56:11,600 --> 01:56:07,469 genetics of about 5 different species 2013 01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:11,610 already mixed together so she became a 2014 01:56:21,220 --> 01:56:15,810 hybrid but these hybrids we actually 2015 01:56:25,820 --> 01:56:21,230 have come to call extraterrestrial 2016 01:56:31,160 --> 01:56:25,830 ambassadors on earth because they are 2017 01:56:35,140 --> 01:56:31,170 here for really benevolent reasons from 2018 01:56:40,220 --> 01:56:35,150 very benevolent extraterrestrial species 2019 01:56:45,380 --> 01:56:40,230 so they are here basically to upgrade 2020 01:56:49,939 --> 01:56:45,390 the consciousness of humanity and help 2021 01:56:53,590 --> 01:56:49,949 to bring higher error better frequencies 2022 01:56:58,430 --> 01:56:53,600 to the earth so these people here are 2023 01:57:04,459 --> 01:56:58,440 for a life of service and they are doing 2024 01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:04,469 really wonderful things teaching having 2025 01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:08,690 workshops teaching classes doing writing 2026 01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:13,170 teaching psychic skills teaching healing 2027 01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:19,250 skills doing it telepathic talking a 2028 01:57:30,459 --> 01:57:25,850 whole range of psychic skills and really 2029 01:57:34,250 --> 01:57:30,469 inspiring their human students and 2030 01:57:37,490 --> 01:57:34,260 because they look completely human and 2031 01:57:39,970 --> 01:57:37,500 as I said they were born from a human 2032 01:57:44,959 --> 01:57:39,980 mother and father right here on earth 2033 01:57:47,900 --> 01:57:44,969 they are very accepted by human beings I 2034 01:57:51,740 --> 01:57:47,910 think it's a brilliant thing really 2035 01:57:54,350 --> 01:57:51,750 because these benevolent beings who have 2036 01:57:59,750 --> 01:57:54,360 contributed their genetics to these 2037 01:58:02,990 --> 01:57:59,760 people they would love to come and help 2038 01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:03,000 to inspire humans and raise our 2039 01:58:09,080 --> 01:58:05,610 consciousness but they would not be 2040 01:58:13,430 --> 01:58:09,090 accepted here nor would they be able to 2041 01:58:16,220 --> 01:58:13,440 withstand our viruses and bacteria so 2042 01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:16,230 they can't come and do this work 2043 01:58:23,860 --> 01:58:20,250 themselves but they can create these 2044 01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:23,870 hybrids who will do this work and are 2045 01:58:30,140 --> 01:58:27,570 doing this work that the beings would 2046 01:58:32,209 --> 01:58:30,150 like to see done we need to take a break 2047 01:58:33,529 --> 01:58:32,219 right here that is fascinating we're 2048 01:58:35,660 --> 01:58:33,539 gonna finish this 2049 01:58:37,250 --> 01:58:35,670 right here this thought when we come 2050 01:58:39,529 --> 01:58:37,260 back after this short break our guest 2051 01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:39,539 tonight is Barbara Lam I am euros Jimmy 2052 01:58:41,870 --> 01:58:40,050 Church 2053 01:58:45,740 --> 01:58:41,880 this is fade to black on the GameChanger 2054 01:58:46,250 --> 01:58:45,750 network and kg are a the planet stay 2055 01:58:46,780 --> 01:58:46,260 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--> 02:03:01,370 [Music] 2155 02:03:08,440 --> 02:03:03,700 [Applause] 2156 02:03:11,070 --> 02:03:08,450 you wanna know a secret I love ponies I 2157 02:03:13,690 --> 02:03:11,080 really love ponies I'm serious I 2158 02:03:17,710 --> 02:03:13,700 couldn't stay single without poor mr. 2159 02:03:23,059 --> 02:03:17,720 Brooks why fade to black because you 2160 02:03:28,059 --> 02:03:25,549 this is fade to black with Jimmy Church 2161 02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:28,069 on the game changer radio network and 2162 02:03:45,550 --> 02:03:32,890 kgr a the global radio alliance 2163 02:03:47,750 --> 02:03:45,560 [Music] 2164 02:03:51,070 --> 02:03:47,760 all right welcome back 2165 02:03:54,950 --> 02:03:51,080 fade to black I am your host Amy Church 2166 02:03:58,520 --> 02:03:54,960 how you doing tonight our guest is 2167 02:04:01,130 --> 02:03:58,530 barber lamb fascinating conversation can 2168 02:04:02,930 --> 02:04:01,140 follow me on twitter at JD radio and you 2169 02:04:06,710 --> 02:04:02,940 can also post any questions that you 2170 02:04:07,670 --> 02:04:06,720 have for Barbara over at hashtag f2b Q 2171 02:04:10,100 --> 02:04:07,680 on Twitter 2172 02:04:12,410 --> 02:04:10,110 and and I've been reading your questions 2173 02:04:14,540 --> 02:04:12,420 tonight throughout the broadcast yeah 2174 02:04:17,210 --> 02:04:14,550 Barbara you thought that it was just me 2175 02:04:20,240 --> 02:04:17,220 and my bright mind it's our audience - 2176 02:04:23,030 --> 02:04:20,250 that's jumping in tonight with some of 2177 02:04:27,650 --> 02:04:23,040 these wonderful questions okay so now 2178 02:04:33,980 --> 02:04:27,660 let's get back to our hybrid and DNA 2179 02:04:37,670 --> 02:04:33,990 questions conversation yes why why do it 2180 02:04:38,860 --> 02:04:37,680 if you are staying on the ships or going 2181 02:04:41,960 --> 02:04:38,870 somewhere else 2182 02:04:45,560 --> 02:04:41,970 what what information have you gotten on 2183 02:04:47,450 --> 02:04:45,570 that what do you mean by wide why the 2184 02:04:49,310 --> 02:04:47,460 hybrid program if you're not going to 2185 02:04:53,990 --> 02:04:49,320 come down here and hang out on planet 2186 02:04:56,660 --> 02:04:54,000 earth oh I see well I think that this is 2187 02:04:59,240 --> 02:04:56,670 just a guess on my part but I think that 2188 02:05:05,390 --> 02:04:59,250 various extraterrestrial species have 2189 02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:05,400 been experimenting now to see what they 2190 02:05:12,710 --> 02:05:08,370 can create and what those beings would 2191 02:05:17,510 --> 02:05:12,720 be like anyway this many of the hybrids 2192 02:05:21,200 --> 02:05:17,520 are seen in by experiencers they're seen 2193 02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:21,210 working together with different species 2194 02:05:29,770 --> 02:05:25,850 of extraterrestrials on the ships so 2195 02:05:33,470 --> 02:05:29,780 they seem to have useful purposes 2196 02:05:36,320 --> 02:05:33,480 they're part of the work force on the 2197 02:05:42,680 --> 02:05:36,330 spaceships even though they're not 2198 02:05:46,540 --> 02:05:42,690 coming here to do work and you see it's 2199 02:05:48,980 --> 02:05:46,550 just some of the many many 2200 02:05:52,100 --> 02:05:48,990 extraterrestrial species that have 2201 02:05:55,350 --> 02:05:52,110 created the hybrids who can live here 2202 02:05:58,470 --> 02:05:55,360 and work here on earth 2203 02:06:00,710 --> 02:05:58,480 and do the work honor that those beings 2204 02:06:03,630 --> 02:06:00,720 would like to done here 2205 02:06:06,210 --> 02:06:03,640 the other ones the ones that get to stay 2206 02:06:07,170 --> 02:06:06,220 on the ships because they're not human 2207 02:06:10,410 --> 02:06:07,180 enough 2208 02:06:13,200 --> 02:06:10,420 they are probably quite useful they 2209 02:06:16,160 --> 02:06:13,210 would be intelligent because they're 2210 02:06:20,370 --> 02:06:16,170 part human and part extraterrestrial 2211 02:06:24,170 --> 02:06:20,380 right so they might be I would assume 2212 02:06:27,660 --> 02:06:24,180 probably are much more intelligent even 2213 02:06:32,040 --> 02:06:27,670 than we humans are so they're probably 2214 02:06:35,100 --> 02:06:32,050 quite useful to the extraterrestrial 2215 02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:35,110 beings and there's there's the other 2216 02:06:39,420 --> 02:06:37,450 theory out there love to hear your 2217 02:06:42,630 --> 02:06:39,430 comment on this that they're just 2218 02:06:44,940 --> 02:06:42,640 prepping us for an ultimate take over 2219 02:06:48,500 --> 02:06:44,950 the prepping the planet they're getting 2220 02:06:51,900 --> 02:06:48,510 the atmosphere and and other things 2221 02:06:55,080 --> 02:06:51,910 better situated for them and of course 2222 02:06:59,280 --> 02:06:55,090 us in general and eventually there won't 2223 02:07:02,070 --> 02:06:59,290 be anymore us it'll be just them well 2224 02:07:05,160 --> 02:07:02,080 I've heard those theories definitely and 2225 02:07:09,990 --> 02:07:05,170 I do not know about that 2226 02:07:12,510 --> 02:07:10,000 I can't validate that in any way I just 2227 02:07:15,680 --> 02:07:12,520 have not come across that in my 2228 02:07:18,870 --> 02:07:15,690 particular practice and I try to 2229 02:07:22,620 --> 02:07:18,880 restrict the talking about all of these 2230 02:07:25,500 --> 02:07:22,630 matters to what I have individually 2231 02:07:28,560 --> 02:07:25,510 learned through doing this work rather 2232 02:07:34,140 --> 02:07:28,570 than taking on somebody else to series 2233 02:07:38,160 --> 02:07:34,150 right right and the the hybrid program I 2234 02:07:41,780 --> 02:07:38,170 have heard so many stories and reports 2235 02:07:44,640 --> 02:07:41,790 over the years about hybrid sightings 2236 02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:44,650 that even at conferences right well 2237 02:07:50,040 --> 02:07:46,570 there'll be somebodies yes a family in 2238 02:07:51,900 --> 02:07:50,050 the back you know that that is just a 2239 02:07:56,070 --> 02:07:51,910 little bit different from the rest of us 2240 02:07:57,620 --> 02:07:56,080 not hanging out not intermingling just 2241 02:08:01,230 --> 02:07:57,630 there at the conference and then 2242 02:08:04,140 --> 02:08:01,240 disappears or or sightings on the street 2243 02:08:05,910 --> 02:08:04,150 and so forth and now and I also want to 2244 02:08:06,649 --> 02:08:05,920 get into black-eyed children too as well 2245 02:08:10,820 --> 02:08:06,659 but 2246 02:08:17,870 --> 02:08:10,830 hybrid sightings will we know one if we 2247 02:08:21,020 --> 02:08:17,880 saw one well I saw one that I would not 2248 02:08:23,600 --> 02:08:21,030 consider the kind of hybrid that I've 2249 02:08:26,149 --> 02:08:23,610 been researching knowing and writing 2250 02:08:30,500 --> 02:08:26,159 about the ones who were born here on 2251 02:08:33,080 --> 02:08:30,510 earth but in a coffee shop a few years 2252 02:08:36,200 --> 02:08:33,090 ago a friend and I were sitting and 2253 02:08:40,610 --> 02:08:36,210 having coffee and there was a woman who 2254 02:08:48,640 --> 02:08:40,620 came in and walked right past us and we 2255 02:08:53,300 --> 02:08:48,650 both had a a shudder a striking physical 2256 02:08:56,169 --> 02:08:53,310 reaction to just seeing this woman and 2257 02:09:00,560 --> 02:08:56,179 we both looked at each other and said 2258 02:09:02,810 --> 02:09:00,570 hybrid she's got to be a hybrid and 2259 02:09:06,229 --> 02:09:02,820 there was something really yeah about 2260 02:09:11,000 --> 02:09:06,239 the energy the vibrations that that 2261 02:09:14,629 --> 02:09:11,010 person that were so different than any 2262 02:09:18,050 --> 02:09:14,639 other person we'd ever been close to and 2263 02:09:23,149 --> 02:09:18,060 she just walked past us I was absolutely 2264 02:09:26,330 --> 02:09:23,159 stunned and I wanted so much to get up 2265 02:09:28,910 --> 02:09:26,340 out of my chair and follow her into the 2266 02:09:34,370 --> 02:09:28,920 rest of the coffee shop and talk to her 2267 02:09:39,080 --> 02:09:34,380 I couldn't I just couldn't do it I felt 2268 02:09:41,959 --> 02:09:39,090 like I was stuck to the seat and then a 2269 02:09:45,979 --> 02:09:41,969 little while later she came right near 2270 02:09:48,800 --> 02:09:45,989 our table to one of those little shelves 2271 02:09:51,229 --> 02:09:48,810 where you can put cinnamon or sugar or 2272 02:09:54,500 --> 02:09:51,239 chocolate sprinkles or whatever in your 2273 02:09:58,550 --> 02:09:54,510 coffee and so she was about three feet 2274 02:10:01,240 --> 02:09:58,560 away from us with her back to us she was 2275 02:10:06,050 --> 02:10:01,250 busy doing something with her coffee and 2276 02:10:09,320 --> 02:10:06,060 again I wanted so much to get up and go 2277 02:10:12,830 --> 02:10:09,330 to that little counter and look at her 2278 02:10:17,600 --> 02:10:12,840 and talk to her and I didn't know what I 2279 02:10:20,330 --> 02:10:17,610 would say but again I just couldn't get 2280 02:10:23,000 --> 02:10:20,340 up and do it and 2281 02:10:26,959 --> 02:10:23,010 my friend and I both felt that maybe 2282 02:10:30,169 --> 02:10:26,969 this woman had somehow been able to 2283 02:10:33,770 --> 02:10:30,179 affect us that I wouldn't be able to get 2284 02:10:37,279 --> 02:10:33,780 up I mean she probably didn't want to be 2285 02:10:41,169 --> 02:10:37,289 approached and and spoken with it was 2286 02:10:46,399 --> 02:10:41,179 really I still remember that experience 2287 02:10:48,890 --> 02:10:46,409 very vividly I mean how odd that was so 2288 02:10:51,799 --> 02:10:48,900 and I will never know about her I never 2289 02:10:54,379 --> 02:10:51,809 saw her again and I will never know 2290 02:10:57,290 --> 02:10:54,389 where she really was a hybrid but whoa 2291 02:11:01,219 --> 02:10:57,300 there was something so so incredibly 2292 02:11:03,919 --> 02:11:01,229 different about that person yes she knew 2293 02:11:06,469 --> 02:11:03,929 that you knew I think so 2294 02:11:11,089 --> 02:11:06,479 I really do think so now whether she 2295 02:11:14,450 --> 02:11:11,099 stayed here on earth for a long time or 2296 02:11:18,379 --> 02:11:14,460 not I just really don't know but I would 2297 02:11:20,959 --> 02:11:18,389 suspect that she might not have stayed 2298 02:11:25,189 --> 02:11:20,969 here very long because her whole 2299 02:11:28,399 --> 02:11:25,199 demeanor her look her frequencies was 2300 02:11:32,299 --> 02:11:28,409 just so different and she probably 2301 02:11:36,379 --> 02:11:32,309 affected other people very oddly like 2302 02:11:39,799 --> 02:11:36,389 she she affected us too but yes you do 2303 02:11:43,299 --> 02:11:39,809 hear about this at one of the MUFON 2304 02:11:48,680 --> 02:11:43,309 meetings in Orange County California 2305 02:11:53,600 --> 02:11:48,690 my co-author of alien experiences book 2306 02:11:56,989 --> 02:11:53,610 Nadine lawless she sat in the back row 2307 02:11:58,750 --> 02:11:56,999 and in the row right in front of her but 2308 02:12:03,549 --> 02:11:58,760 a little bit to the side 2309 02:12:07,700 --> 02:12:03,559 she watched two young men in black 2310 02:12:11,620 --> 02:12:07,710 sweatshirts with hoodies just sitting 2311 02:12:16,069 --> 02:12:11,630 there through the whole lecture not 2312 02:12:18,950 --> 02:12:16,079 moving at all I mean usually if you're 2313 02:12:20,540 --> 02:12:18,960 sitting there you know your head moves a 2314 02:12:22,759 --> 02:12:20,550 little bit every once in a while or 2315 02:12:25,640 --> 02:12:22,769 you're you loosen your shoulders for 2316 02:12:28,040 --> 02:12:25,650 your shift your position or or you move 2317 02:12:30,739 --> 02:12:28,050 your hands or something when you're 2318 02:12:32,580 --> 02:12:30,749 listening to a lecture but these two set 2319 02:12:35,400 --> 02:12:32,590 they're like statues 2320 02:12:38,280 --> 02:12:35,410 and she kept looking at them and 2321 02:12:43,260 --> 02:12:38,290 thinking wow they are really different 2322 02:12:45,540 --> 02:12:43,270 and when the lecture was over she wanted 2323 02:12:47,850 --> 02:12:45,550 to go and talk to them but they 2324 02:12:50,610 --> 02:12:47,860 immediately faced the other direction 2325 02:12:53,640 --> 02:12:50,620 and went out the door of the meeting 2326 02:12:57,750 --> 02:12:53,650 room to the outside and never showed up 2327 02:12:59,850 --> 02:12:57,760 again but Wow she said so if she never 2328 02:13:03,710 --> 02:12:59,860 really got a good look at their faces 2329 02:13:06,690 --> 02:13:03,720 but they just seemed so odd and the 2330 02:13:10,440 --> 02:13:06,700 feeling from them the vibration from 2331 02:13:12,720 --> 02:13:10,450 them was really different she said now 2332 02:13:19,560 --> 02:13:12,730 you've been doing this for a very very 2333 02:13:23,850 --> 02:13:19,570 long time and here we are I would say 2334 02:13:27,780 --> 02:13:23,860 this is the most exciting time for you 2335 02:13:30,450 --> 02:13:27,790 follow Jean in the community ever ever 2336 02:13:34,530 --> 02:13:30,460 we're in this crazy Information Age 2337 02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:34,540 we've got the the New York Times and 2338 02:13:40,860 --> 02:13:37,450 what happened last December December 2339 02:13:44,220 --> 02:13:40,870 16th in 2017 it was like the days of 2340 02:13:47,790 --> 02:13:44,230 disclosure right here we are it's it's 2341 02:13:50,490 --> 02:13:47,800 finally starting to happen what did you 2342 02:13:52,830 --> 02:13:50,500 feel and and what do you how do you feel 2343 02:13:54,680 --> 02:13:52,840 now what did you feel then did you think 2344 02:13:57,960 --> 02:13:54,690 that we were on the brink of something 2345 02:14:01,380 --> 02:13:57,970 busting open now we're now we move down 2346 02:14:04,490 --> 02:14:01,390 to 2019 right and we floated right 2347 02:14:09,180 --> 02:14:04,500 through 2018 and we all thought that 2348 02:14:11,490 --> 02:14:09,190 2018 was our year yes we did I think we 2349 02:14:13,710 --> 02:14:11,500 really got our hopes up those of us who 2350 02:14:16,320 --> 02:14:13,720 would like to see this openly 2351 02:14:20,660 --> 02:14:16,330 acknowledged you know there was that 2352 02:14:24,420 --> 02:14:20,670 little foray to the Stars Academy 2353 02:14:26,460 --> 02:14:24,430 introduced information about this and 2354 02:14:29,790 --> 02:14:26,470 though there were some really high 2355 02:14:31,460 --> 02:14:29,800 ranking government people who had just 2356 02:14:34,460 --> 02:14:31,470 retired from the government who were 2357 02:14:38,820 --> 02:14:34,470 involved are still involved I'm sure 2358 02:14:43,230 --> 02:14:38,830 with that to the Stars Academy so they 2359 02:14:46,260 --> 02:14:43,240 did an opening for a should we say of 2360 02:14:50,190 --> 02:14:46,270 giving out information about UFOs 2361 02:14:53,580 --> 02:14:50,200 and then seem to pull back now just 2362 02:14:57,120 --> 02:14:53,590 recently from some people I know who 2363 02:15:00,630 --> 02:14:57,130 know a couple of those to the Stars 2364 02:15:06,710 --> 02:15:00,640 Academy people they have said that there 2365 02:15:11,720 --> 02:15:06,720 is very soon now in nineteen or to 2019 2366 02:15:15,780 --> 02:15:11,730 are going to be releasing some further 2367 02:15:18,690 --> 02:15:15,790 informations so we will see but you know 2368 02:15:21,060 --> 02:15:18,700 when people have said to me when are we 2369 02:15:25,140 --> 02:15:21,070 going to have government disclosure and 2370 02:15:28,470 --> 02:15:25,150 that's asked of me many many times and 2371 02:15:31,980 --> 02:15:28,480 of course I don't know if we'll ever 2372 02:15:37,200 --> 02:15:31,990 have official government disclosure but 2373 02:15:39,750 --> 02:15:37,210 I always say we are the disclosure so 2374 02:15:43,980 --> 02:15:39,760 that right now this very moment Jimmy 2375 02:15:46,260 --> 02:15:43,990 you and I and all of your listeners are 2376 02:15:50,040 --> 02:15:46,270 talking about this and thinking about 2377 02:15:54,140 --> 02:15:50,050 this that and everything that we say and 2378 02:15:58,050 --> 02:15:54,150 there are many others giving talks about 2379 02:16:03,090 --> 02:15:58,060 extraterrestrials and UFOs all of this 2380 02:16:05,670 --> 02:16:03,100 is part of the disclosure informally in 2381 02:16:09,150 --> 02:16:05,680 other words more and more information 2382 02:16:13,760 --> 02:16:09,160 bit by bit is coming out look at the 2383 02:16:18,860 --> 02:16:13,770 YouTube channels and Gaia channels and 2384 02:16:24,600 --> 02:16:18,870 so much information on the internet and 2385 02:16:27,660 --> 02:16:24,610 DVDs movies to some extent books tons of 2386 02:16:32,100 --> 02:16:27,670 books out there about this whole 2387 02:16:34,440 --> 02:16:32,110 phenomenon so in a way we may not need 2388 02:16:38,040 --> 02:16:34,450 to have any government making it 2389 02:16:40,530 --> 02:16:38,050 official disclosure because fortunately 2390 02:16:43,580 --> 02:16:40,540 people are able to get a lot of 2391 02:16:48,360 --> 02:16:43,590 information about this if they wish to 2392 02:16:50,700 --> 02:16:48,370 are we close what do you think close to 2393 02:16:54,209 --> 02:16:50,710 disclosure yeah are we good are we 2394 02:16:58,740 --> 02:16:54,219 getting there Barbara I think oh I do 2395 02:16:59,530 --> 02:16:58,750 think bit by bit we are and just whether 2396 02:17:03,599 --> 02:16:59,540 it 2397 02:17:08,320 --> 02:17:03,609 in the form of official government 2398 02:17:12,040 --> 02:17:08,330 announcements or not the information the 2399 02:17:13,959 --> 02:17:12,050 knowledge about this is spreading a lot 2400 02:17:17,290 --> 02:17:13,969 spreading like wildfire 2401 02:17:23,589 --> 02:17:17,300 all over the earth just with the books 2402 02:17:27,790 --> 02:17:23,599 that I've been fortunate to write anyway 2403 02:17:30,879 --> 02:17:27,800 the book called meet the hybrids that is 2404 02:17:35,950 --> 02:17:30,889 being translated and published now in 2405 02:17:38,650 --> 02:17:35,960 France and in Japan without our seeking 2406 02:17:41,040 --> 02:17:38,660 without our looking for that people are 2407 02:17:44,440 --> 02:17:41,050 in other countries picking it up and 2408 02:17:47,410 --> 02:17:44,450 wanting their populace to know about it 2409 02:17:50,830 --> 02:17:47,420 as well so I think that the information 2410 02:17:55,030 --> 02:17:50,840 about UFOs and extraterrestrials is 2411 02:17:59,730 --> 02:17:55,040 really increasing probably all over the 2412 02:18:03,040 --> 02:17:59,740 world and for sure people have been 2413 02:18:07,120 --> 02:18:03,050 experiencing extraterrestrial encounters 2414 02:18:10,959 --> 02:18:07,130 all over the world and we know that 2415 02:18:13,629 --> 02:18:10,969 there are UFO sightings all over the 2416 02:18:16,570 --> 02:18:13,639 world so I think that all of this is 2417 02:18:19,809 --> 02:18:16,580 going to be continuing and whether the 2418 02:18:22,990 --> 02:18:19,819 government's any of them ever make an 2419 02:18:25,419 --> 02:18:23,000 official disclosure or not I think more 2420 02:18:30,309 --> 02:18:25,429 and more people are going to be aware of 2421 02:18:30,929 --> 02:18:30,319 that as they say we are not alone in the 2422 02:18:36,490 --> 02:18:30,939 universe 2423 02:18:40,000 --> 02:18:36,500 when you've done 2,600 regressions I can 2424 02:18:44,080 --> 02:18:40,010 imagine that there is one thing that you 2425 02:18:47,889 --> 02:18:44,090 hear over and over again from clients of 2426 02:18:50,440 --> 02:18:47,899 yours patients of yours that are not in 2427 02:18:52,750 --> 02:18:50,450 communication with each other and you 2428 02:18:56,650 --> 02:18:52,760 see this little kernel this little 2429 02:18:59,559 --> 02:18:56,660 commonality between them all can you 2430 02:19:04,110 --> 02:18:59,569 share that with us well I think the most 2431 02:19:08,099 --> 02:19:04,120 obvious commonality is that the beings 2432 02:19:12,910 --> 02:19:08,109 let the people having these encounters 2433 02:19:13,690 --> 02:19:12,920 be aware of very little of the whole 2434 02:19:17,650 --> 02:19:13,700 encounter 2435 02:19:20,320 --> 02:19:17,660 we're consciously of it now one of the 2436 02:19:23,679 --> 02:19:20,330 reasons that has been mentioned by some 2437 02:19:27,360 --> 02:19:23,689 of the extraterrestrials to my clients 2438 02:19:30,490 --> 02:19:27,370 and also from the channeling of that 2439 02:19:33,879 --> 02:19:30,500 extraterrestrial I used to talk to many 2440 02:19:37,299 --> 02:19:33,889 many times was that the 2441 02:19:44,219 --> 02:19:37,309 extraterrestrials know that we humans 2442 02:19:48,400 --> 02:19:44,229 can be very reactive very volatile very 2443 02:19:51,510 --> 02:19:48,410 frightened and we can really flail out 2444 02:19:55,600 --> 02:19:51,520 you know we have the fiver flight 2445 02:19:59,050 --> 02:19:55,610 impulse very strongly in us and an 2446 02:20:02,730 --> 02:19:59,060 example of this is that one of clients 2447 02:20:06,520 --> 02:20:02,740 who had probably done 30 regressions 2448 02:20:09,460 --> 02:20:06,530 over a period of a few years she got to 2449 02:20:12,760 --> 02:20:09,470 the point where she really wanted to 2450 02:20:16,770 --> 02:20:12,770 have an encounter where she would be 2451 02:20:22,120 --> 02:20:16,780 conscious and awake for the whole 2452 02:20:26,080 --> 02:20:22,130 experience and she really meant that and 2453 02:20:29,700 --> 02:20:26,090 I said well if you really want that you 2454 02:20:33,010 --> 02:20:29,710 can ask for that you can say out loud 2455 02:20:35,469 --> 02:20:33,020 even if the beings don't seem to be 2456 02:20:38,920 --> 02:20:35,479 right there with you as you're saying it 2457 02:20:42,700 --> 02:20:38,930 you could say please take me and let me 2458 02:20:45,730 --> 02:20:42,710 be consciously aware of every moment of 2459 02:20:50,440 --> 02:20:45,740 the experience and what happens so 2460 02:20:53,020 --> 02:20:50,450 shortly after that lo and behold a group 2461 02:20:56,530 --> 02:20:53,030 of beings came again shoot in bed at 2462 02:20:59,350 --> 02:20:56,540 night and they levitated her up off the 2463 02:21:03,490 --> 02:20:59,360 bed she's consciously aware of that and 2464 02:21:05,290 --> 02:21:03,500 she happened to sort of look down at the 2465 02:21:08,260 --> 02:21:05,300 bed and realize she was about six feet 2466 02:21:13,000 --> 02:21:08,270 above the bed and even though she had 2467 02:21:16,179 --> 02:21:13,010 wanted sincerely to be awake and aware 2468 02:21:19,240 --> 02:21:16,189 conscious of the whole experience seeing 2469 02:21:23,110 --> 02:21:19,250 herself up off the bed like that with 2470 02:21:27,370 --> 02:21:23,120 beings around her she just began to 2471 02:21:29,830 --> 02:21:27,380 freak out she began to flail about 2472 02:21:30,550 --> 02:21:29,840 her arms and legs were kicking out and 2473 02:21:34,809 --> 02:21:30,560 so forth 2474 02:21:39,609 --> 02:21:34,819 and immediately these four beings who 2475 02:21:42,280 --> 02:21:39,619 were there wrapped her and sort of a 2476 02:21:46,179 --> 02:21:42,290 netting she said it was reminded her of 2477 02:21:51,550 --> 02:21:46,189 a fish netting they bound her up like a 2478 02:21:53,979 --> 02:21:51,560 cocoon and then continued to take her 2479 02:21:57,969 --> 02:21:53,989 through the wall out into the air and 2480 02:22:01,320 --> 02:21:57,979 into a spaceship she was conscious for 2481 02:22:05,349 --> 02:22:01,330 that but she couldn't move and they said 2482 02:22:08,320 --> 02:22:05,359 we thought this might happen and we are 2483 02:22:11,740 --> 02:22:08,330 wrapping you up because we don't want 2484 02:22:15,639 --> 02:22:11,750 you to hurt yourself and we don't want 2485 02:22:18,370 --> 02:22:15,649 you to hurt us so when they got into the 2486 02:22:22,210 --> 02:22:18,380 spaceship they stood her up on her feet 2487 02:22:24,609 --> 02:22:22,220 and they unwrapped the fish netting sort 2488 02:22:27,399 --> 02:22:24,619 of material so if she wasn't bound up 2489 02:22:30,609 --> 02:22:27,409 anymore and then she went on with the 2490 02:22:33,939 --> 02:22:30,619 rest of the experience which happened to 2491 02:22:38,519 --> 02:22:33,949 be with a very illumined high 2492 02:22:42,189 --> 02:22:38,529 dimensional spiritual being it was a 2493 02:22:45,729 --> 02:22:42,199 magnificent encounter as it turned out 2494 02:22:50,010 --> 02:22:45,739 but that's just an example of how they 2495 02:22:53,649 --> 02:22:50,020 know that we get very very reactive and 2496 02:22:56,469 --> 02:22:53,659 very frightened about these unusual 2497 02:22:58,330 --> 02:22:56,479 things they don't they don't want to be 2498 02:23:01,990 --> 02:22:58,340 hurt and they don't want us to hurt 2499 02:23:06,099 --> 02:23:02,000 ourselves in the process now I wanted to 2500 02:23:08,559 --> 02:23:06,109 ask you really quick before we do run 2501 02:23:10,269 --> 02:23:08,569 out of time in about six minutes what do 2502 02:23:12,130 --> 02:23:10,279 you think about what's going on down in 2503 02:23:16,059 --> 02:23:12,140 Antarctica right now 2504 02:23:20,200 --> 02:23:16,069 we've got a lot of ice that is melting 2505 02:23:22,330 --> 02:23:20,210 and a lot of talk about things that are 2506 02:23:24,540 --> 02:23:22,340 about to be discovered underneath that 2507 02:23:27,280 --> 02:23:24,550 ice do you have any information on that 2508 02:23:27,729 --> 02:23:27,290 well I've heard other people speak about 2509 02:23:29,740 --> 02:23:27,739 it 2510 02:23:33,330 --> 02:23:29,750 other people who actually have been 2511 02:23:37,899 --> 02:23:33,340 researching that and I am absolutely 2512 02:23:39,341 --> 02:23:37,909 intrigued because not only are there 2513 02:23:41,440 --> 02:23:39,351 pyramids 2514 02:23:44,080 --> 02:23:41,450 that are sticking up the point of the 2515 02:23:46,511 --> 02:23:44,090 pyramids are sticking up out of the 2516 02:23:49,600 --> 02:23:46,521 melting ice that's intriguing 2517 02:23:53,501 --> 02:23:49,610 in itself but also there are these 2518 02:23:57,160 --> 02:23:53,511 people who have explored underground 2519 02:24:00,520 --> 02:23:57,170 facilities that are two miles down deep 2520 02:24:03,870 --> 02:24:00,530 right under the surface of the ice and 2521 02:24:09,030 --> 02:24:03,880 snow and Antarctica there are huge 2522 02:24:13,051 --> 02:24:09,040 caverns that and with structures like an 2523 02:24:16,001 --> 02:24:13,061 80-foot tall ceiling I was just hearing 2524 02:24:21,100 --> 02:24:16,011 the other day from Linda Moulton Howe 2525 02:24:24,220 --> 02:24:21,110 and no columns holding up that 80-foot 2526 02:24:29,551 --> 02:24:24,230 tall ceiling and there were ancient 2527 02:24:33,541 --> 02:24:29,561 buildings full of carvings and 2528 02:24:37,140 --> 02:24:33,551 hieroglyphics that are very much like 2529 02:24:40,780 --> 02:24:37,150 hieroglyphics that have been found on 2530 02:24:45,551 --> 02:24:40,790 unbeknownst to most humans on Mars and 2531 02:24:48,850 --> 02:24:45,561 also on structures on the moon so it 2532 02:24:54,070 --> 02:24:48,860 implies that there was an 2533 02:24:58,990 --> 02:24:54,080 extraterrestrial civilization there long 2534 02:25:02,171 --> 02:24:59,000 long time ago and loads of artifacts 2535 02:25:05,230 --> 02:25:02,181 loads of carvings I mean it is 2536 02:25:08,140 --> 02:25:05,240 absolutely intriguing I think you know 2537 02:25:10,060 --> 02:25:08,150 what's been going on down there two 2538 02:25:12,610 --> 02:25:10,070 miles deep a batch of that I know 2539 02:25:15,820 --> 02:25:12,620 imagine that and and when we talk about 2540 02:25:19,480 --> 02:25:15,830 disclosure I think you're right you know 2541 02:25:22,120 --> 02:25:19,490 disclosure lies within us but it's gonna 2542 02:25:23,890 --> 02:25:22,130 be something that is going to be out of 2543 02:25:25,600 --> 02:25:23,900 the government's control and then 2544 02:25:28,421 --> 02:25:25,610 they're just gonna have to fess up I 2545 02:25:29,711 --> 02:25:28,431 think that's ultimately I think that's 2546 02:25:32,261 --> 02:25:29,721 what it's gonna be we can't sit around 2547 02:25:35,070 --> 02:25:32,271 on our hands and and wait for somebody 2548 02:25:37,650 --> 02:25:35,080 to just you know start to admit things 2549 02:25:39,761 --> 02:25:37,660 it's something that's gonna be happen 2550 02:25:41,650 --> 02:25:39,771 something is going to happen that they 2551 02:25:44,980 --> 02:25:41,660 can't control and then they've got to 2552 02:25:47,530 --> 02:25:44,990 come clean and yes it's you know the 2553 02:25:50,650 --> 02:25:47,540 odds every day that passes is one more 2554 02:25:53,560 --> 02:25:50,660 one more day closer to that craziness 2555 02:25:57,010 --> 02:25:53,570 that's my opinion Barbara what an 2556 02:26:00,969 --> 02:25:57,020 exciting time this is you know getting 2557 02:26:02,950 --> 02:26:00,979 ready for an official disclosure and all 2558 02:26:06,310 --> 02:26:02,960 of the things that we're learning about 2559 02:26:08,969 --> 02:26:06,320 it you know so many people involved in 2560 02:26:11,560 --> 02:26:08,979 this research so many people 2561 02:26:14,320 --> 02:26:11,570 experiencing the encounters with the 2562 02:26:19,060 --> 02:26:14,330 beings so many people having sightings 2563 02:26:22,660 --> 02:26:19,070 of unusual crafts which we call UFOs I 2564 02:26:25,719 --> 02:26:22,670 mean it it is bustling with activity and 2565 02:26:29,080 --> 02:26:25,729 we are getting to be aware of some of 2566 02:26:30,639 --> 02:26:29,090 that so what's up next for you do you 2567 02:26:33,610 --> 02:26:30,649 have a new book coming out what are you 2568 02:26:38,469 --> 02:26:33,620 working on what's next well what's next 2569 02:26:41,170 --> 02:26:38,479 for me is a more personal endeavor and 2570 02:26:44,639 --> 02:26:41,180 that is I want to write about some of 2571 02:26:48,540 --> 02:26:44,649 the would I consider highly unusual 2572 02:26:51,940 --> 02:26:48,550 experiences that I have had in my life 2573 02:26:55,210 --> 02:26:51,950 involving spirit visitations and solving 2574 02:26:59,550 --> 02:26:55,220 going into the spirit world 2575 02:27:04,240 --> 02:26:59,560 amazing past life experiences 2576 02:27:08,200 --> 02:27:04,250 spontaneous recalled and regress to many 2577 02:27:11,679 --> 02:27:08,210 out-of-body experiences all kinds of 2578 02:27:14,530 --> 02:27:11,689 things like that you know that that I 2579 02:27:16,389 --> 02:27:14,540 personally have experienced I can't wait 2580 02:27:18,639 --> 02:27:16,399 I can't wait I can't wait to get you 2581 02:27:20,620 --> 02:27:18,649 back on the show we started to talk a 2582 02:27:22,960 --> 02:27:20,630 little bit about that over lunch the 2583 02:27:25,780 --> 02:27:22,970 other day and I'm looking at you and I'm 2584 02:27:28,179 --> 02:27:25,790 like this this this woman has so many 2585 02:27:31,420 --> 02:27:28,189 layers Barbara you have so many layers 2586 02:27:33,850 --> 02:27:31,430 to you and I look forward to our next 2587 02:27:35,380 --> 02:27:33,860 conversation and and just thank you so 2588 02:27:37,540 --> 02:27:35,390 much from everybody here in our 2589 02:27:39,969 --> 02:27:37,550 community thank you for everything that 2590 02:27:43,360 --> 02:27:39,979 you do don't stop and I look forward to 2591 02:27:45,520 --> 02:27:43,370 the book great Thank You Jimmy thank you 2592 02:27:48,820 --> 02:27:45,530 Bob thank you so much Barbara Barbara 2593 02:27:50,219 --> 02:27:48,830 Lamb and her website and the links are 2594 02:27:54,610 --> 02:27:50,229 right there are two meters radio.com 2595 02:27:56,200 --> 02:27:54,620 it's Barbara Lam MFT dot-com you can go 2596 02:27:58,780 --> 02:27:56,210 and check that out everything is right 2597 02:28:01,270 --> 02:27:58,790 there Jimmy Church radio calm Barbara 2598 02:28:02,350 --> 02:28:01,280 Lam I am your host Jimmy church this is 2599 02:28:03,680 --> 02:28:02,360 fade to black 2600 02:28:05,930 --> 02:28:03,690 what a wonderful 2601 02:28:08,060 --> 02:28:05,940 conversation five years we've been 2602 02:28:10,581 --> 02:28:08,070 talking about it and we got her done 2603 02:28:12,171 --> 02:28:10,591 it was amazing Thank You Barbara I am 2604 02:28:14,121 --> 02:28:12,181 arrows Jimmy Church I'll be right back 2605 02:28:16,881 --> 02:28:14,131 after this short break I'll open up the 2606 02:28:21,590 --> 02:28:16,891 phone lines and we'll walk out this last 2607 02:28:38,990 --> 02:28:35,770 [Music] 2608 02:28:44,179 --> 02:28:39,000 and you are listening to my boy Jimmy 2609 02:28:47,420 --> 02:28:44,189 Church on Jimmy Church radio calm this 2610 02:28:57,050 --> 02:28:47,430 my popular opinion reading a book will 2611 02:29:00,770 --> 02:28:57,060 not make you smarter hurricanes 2612 02:29:02,540 --> 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seven two two eight two zero 2696 02:33:22,940 --> 02:33:19,431 five one seven four seven two two eight 2697 02:33:24,320 --> 02:33:22,950 two zero five one let's go straight to 2698 02:33:27,801 --> 02:33:24,330 the phone's hi you're live on fade to 2699 02:33:30,921 --> 02:33:27,811 black who's calling hi Jimmy etheric hey 2700 02:33:33,171 --> 02:33:30,931 Eric how are you I'm not doing really 2701 02:33:36,650 --> 02:33:33,181 well but I was inspired by Barbara's 2702 02:33:41,290 --> 02:33:36,660 accounts tonight why why why aren't you 2703 02:33:44,631 --> 02:33:41,300 doing well well I'm not really sure but 2704 02:33:48,410 --> 02:33:44,641 Wednesday last week I started feeling 2705 02:33:51,650 --> 02:33:48,420 kind of nauseous and and I started 2706 02:33:54,740 --> 02:33:51,660 throwing up and nothing was really 2707 02:33:56,390 --> 02:33:54,750 coming out you know and so I just wasn't 2708 02:33:57,650 --> 02:33:56,400 really able to eat anything I was kind 2709 02:33:59,990 --> 02:33:57,660 of thinking maybe I just got a little 2710 02:34:01,280 --> 02:34:00,000 something and then Friday came and I was 2711 02:34:02,570 --> 02:34:01,290 just praying that I was going to get 2712 02:34:06,740 --> 02:34:02,580 better so I can come to the conference 2713 02:34:08,990 --> 02:34:06,750 and then it just got worse and I didn't 2714 02:34:10,881 --> 02:34:09,000 having this I've been having this kind 2715 02:34:13,131 --> 02:34:10,891 of black gooey stuff coming out of both 2716 02:34:14,841 --> 02:34:13,141 ends in my body for five days I hasn't 2717 02:34:17,270 --> 02:34:14,851 been able to eat or hold anything down 2718 02:34:20,030 --> 02:34:17,280 this there we can drink water yeah I do 2719 02:34:25,720 --> 02:34:20,040 that every day before the show so you 2720 02:34:29,330 --> 02:34:25,730 know so the sounds like food poisoning 2721 02:34:30,560 --> 02:34:29,340 yeah I don't know I called John Polk and 2722 02:34:32,450 --> 02:34:30,570 told them because you think you're being 2723 02:34:34,160 --> 02:34:32,460 attacked and like I don't know dude I 2724 02:34:36,171 --> 02:34:34,170 just know that I'm sick and I don't feel 2725 02:34:38,511 --> 02:34:36,181 good it comes in waves it's like I'll 2726 02:34:40,370 --> 02:34:38,521 feel like I'm getting better and then a 2727 02:34:41,780 --> 02:34:40,380 couple hours later I'm on the phone in 2728 02:34:44,360 --> 02:34:41,790 the toilet again you know it's just one 2729 02:34:47,030 --> 02:34:44,370 of those things it's weird right right 2730 02:34:50,511 --> 02:34:47,040 right well I hope you get to feeling 2731 02:34:53,750 --> 02:34:50,521 better you know and there's nothing like 2732 02:34:55,820 --> 02:34:53,760 you know late night you got your your 2733 02:34:57,710 --> 02:34:55,830 beverage of choice and you got your 2734 02:35:00,740 --> 02:34:57,720 blankie and you've got fade to black 2735 02:35:04,100 --> 02:35:00,750 right and you get to just you know get a 2736 02:35:07,430 --> 02:35:04,110 little comfy and and and and you get to 2737 02:35:09,410 --> 02:35:07,440 hear talk about hybrids you know you 2738 02:35:09,920 --> 02:35:09,420 know that that'll make you feel a little 2739 02:35:13,819 --> 02:35:09,930 better 2740 02:35:16,489 --> 02:35:13,829 so okay so uh you called me what do you 2741 02:35:18,590 --> 02:35:16,499 think yeah I'll tell you the hybrid 2742 02:35:21,019 --> 02:35:18,600 story but real quickly I was lucky 2743 02:35:22,939 --> 02:35:21,029 enough somebody posted a YouTube video 2744 02:35:24,830 --> 02:35:22,949 of your a panel I don't know if you 2745 02:35:26,300 --> 02:35:24,840 probably know that on Friday and I just 2746 02:35:29,239 --> 02:35:26,310 thought it was fantastic I just wanted 2747 02:35:31,099 --> 02:35:29,249 to say great job I mean this really at 2748 02:35:32,630 --> 02:35:31,109 least I got to experience the two hours 2749 02:35:36,800 --> 02:35:32,640 that you were there Friday through that 2750 02:35:40,189 --> 02:35:36,810 YouTube video yeah that I've done an 2751 02:35:42,679 --> 02:35:40,199 awful lot of panels Eric you know you've 2752 02:35:45,909 --> 02:35:42,689 certainly been to a number of them and I 2753 02:35:51,500 --> 02:35:45,919 don't know I've done a lot of panels and 2754 02:35:54,559 --> 02:35:51,510 that one was right up there and and that 2755 02:35:56,449 --> 02:35:54,569 that says a lot considering some of the 2756 02:36:00,109 --> 02:35:56,459 things that I've been very lucky to do 2757 02:36:01,729 --> 02:36:00,119 over the years to host that was a that 2758 02:36:04,790 --> 02:36:01,739 was pretty cool that was pretty special 2759 02:36:06,769 --> 02:36:04,800 yeah dad you got a great blend I mean 2760 02:36:09,069 --> 02:36:06,779 with the rabbi and of course you know 2761 02:36:11,210 --> 02:36:09,079 mr. Carson and Linda Moulton Howe and 2762 02:36:12,830 --> 02:36:11,220 Jason I just thought the blend was 2763 02:36:14,750 --> 02:36:12,840 really interesting because you had a lot 2764 02:36:19,460 --> 02:36:14,760 of different kind of perspectives yep 2765 02:36:23,540 --> 02:36:19,470 yep and of course Eric who was so we 2766 02:36:25,309 --> 02:36:23,550 were around Eric all weekend dude was I 2767 02:36:30,920 --> 02:36:25,319 don't have another way to explain it 2768 02:36:34,489 --> 02:36:30,930 dude was bubbly uppity happy hanging out 2769 02:36:37,819 --> 02:36:34,499 running around non-stop and it was so 2770 02:36:38,840 --> 02:36:37,829 much fun to be around him he was he was 2771 02:36:45,830 --> 02:36:38,850 totally cool man 2772 02:36:47,719 --> 02:36:45,840 totally did you get to do it I did some 2773 02:36:50,929 --> 02:36:47,729 other things but I didn't do that 2774 02:36:53,899 --> 02:36:50,939 but did you hear him say gobekli tepe 2775 02:36:55,429 --> 02:36:53,909 yes I did I liked the way he pronounced 2776 02:36:56,630 --> 02:36:55,439 it in his German tongue I thought was 2777 02:36:58,069 --> 02:36:56,640 kind of cool too I don't know how he 2778 02:37:02,479 --> 02:36:58,079 said it but it just sounded kind of cool 2779 02:37:04,639 --> 02:37:02,489 yeah the next day when I was it was the 2780 02:37:06,559 --> 02:37:04,649 next morning I'm introducing him again 2781 02:37:09,380 --> 02:37:06,569 writes the next morning and we're 2782 02:37:13,399 --> 02:37:09,390 hanging out backstage and I said to him 2783 02:37:15,859 --> 02:37:13,409 I said Eric say gobekli tepe 2784 02:37:19,670 --> 02:37:15,869 again for me and he starts laughing and 2785 02:37:21,939 --> 02:37:19,680 he goes Jimmy I say it wrong I said what 2786 02:37:25,449 --> 02:37:21,949 do you mean he goes the Germans have it 2787 02:37:27,999 --> 02:37:25,459 words and I said when it would he mean 2788 02:37:31,439 --> 02:37:28,009 and Ramon jumps in you know Ramon Ramon 2789 02:37:35,469 --> 02:37:31,449 jumps in he says the K and the L are 2790 02:37:37,349 --> 02:37:35,479 reversed and I said oh really and so 2791 02:37:41,199 --> 02:37:37,359 Eric whips it off a couple more times 2792 02:37:43,599 --> 02:37:41,209 and went oh I hear it okay now I get it 2793 02:37:45,819 --> 02:37:43,609 and Eric goes so I say it the German way 2794 02:37:48,609 --> 02:37:45,829 but it is it's wrong it's not the right 2795 02:37:50,769 --> 02:37:48,619 way you say it correct Jimmy I said ah 2796 02:37:53,619 --> 02:37:50,779 man I like yours better I like yours 2797 02:37:56,079 --> 02:37:53,629 better but I can't it's really funny 2798 02:37:59,289 --> 02:37:56,089 city you're debating with the Erich von 2799 02:38:01,359 --> 02:37:59,299 däniken how to say gobekli tepe and I 2800 02:38:02,920 --> 02:38:01,369 was so funny he said I just can't say it 2801 02:38:05,109 --> 02:38:02,930 the right way now I've said it the wrong 2802 02:38:08,289 --> 02:38:05,119 way for so many years I just can't say 2803 02:38:11,229 --> 02:38:08,299 it the right way but okay yeah the panel 2804 02:38:11,590 --> 02:38:11,239 was fun man and I'm glad that you caught 2805 02:38:17,679 --> 02:38:11,600 it 2806 02:38:22,859 --> 02:38:17,689 I did see I watched the opening moments 2807 02:38:27,909 --> 02:38:22,869 of it today because I wanted to catch 2808 02:38:29,139 --> 02:38:27,919 when I think her name is arianah I what 2809 02:38:30,880 --> 02:38:29,149 who I brought up from out of the 2810 02:38:38,590 --> 02:38:30,890 audience to sign you know to get the 2811 02:38:44,170 --> 02:38:38,600 book signed and I did I did too today I 2812 02:38:46,899 --> 02:38:44,180 watched it again and she had no idea and 2813 02:38:48,999 --> 02:38:46,909 she was so cool I was worried that I 2814 02:38:51,279 --> 02:38:49,009 picked somebody that would go now I 2815 02:38:55,779 --> 02:38:51,289 don't want to come up on stage all right 2816 02:38:58,119 --> 02:38:55,789 and but yeah first time it worked and 2817 02:39:01,170 --> 02:38:58,129 she jumped up and she was just she was 2818 02:39:03,550 --> 02:39:01,180 just amazing she was just amazing 2819 02:39:05,319 --> 02:39:03,560 there's only one thing that I'm not 2820 02:39:06,849 --> 02:39:05,329 trying to be critical at here but I'm 2821 02:39:08,529 --> 02:39:06,859 just wondering if Rita gave you a little 2822 02:39:10,239 --> 02:39:08,539 spanking later that night because when 2823 02:39:11,829 --> 02:39:10,249 you introduced Billy and you referred to 2824 02:39:13,929 --> 02:39:11,839 his lovely wife I mean you made a 2825 02:39:17,909 --> 02:39:13,939 comment about Rita and I thought Jimmy 2826 02:39:20,079 --> 02:39:17,919 why did you say that what did I say you 2827 02:39:22,170 --> 02:39:20,089 go back and listen to it I don't want to 2828 02:39:26,380 --> 02:39:22,180 throw you under the bus on the radio 2829 02:39:31,409 --> 02:39:26,390 okay it's not a big deal but I fear Rita 2830 02:39:36,490 --> 02:39:31,419 heard it oh you're talking about my 2p2 2831 02:39:39,050 --> 02:39:36,500 know just about you know okay Eric 2832 02:39:40,219 --> 02:39:39,060 okay Eric I have no idea what you're 2833 02:39:41,240 --> 02:39:40,229 talking about and I think you're 2834 02:39:43,910 --> 02:39:41,250 imagining things 2835 02:39:47,210 --> 02:39:43,920 nobody else had any thought nobody went 2836 02:39:50,719 --> 02:39:47,220 up to read it when Jimmy said so I'm in 2837 02:39:56,469 --> 02:39:50,729 the clear Rita don't ask don't ask Eric 2838 02:39:59,000 --> 02:39:56,479 anything nothing happened okay you call 2839 02:40:02,570 --> 02:39:59,010 yeah yeah yeah you called in about 2840 02:40:04,610 --> 02:40:02,580 Barbara yeah well it was Barba triggered 2841 02:40:07,429 --> 02:40:04,620 the memory because last year when I was 2842 02:40:09,860 --> 02:40:07,439 in Sedona there was a conference that 2843 02:40:12,070 --> 02:40:09,870 Suzanne Ross was putting on and she had 2844 02:40:15,679 --> 02:40:12,080 several people and so I got invited and 2845 02:40:17,960 --> 02:40:15,689 the stage this lady named I mean it was 2846 02:40:19,850 --> 02:40:17,970 a Laura Thunder beat or Thunder beat I 2847 02:40:22,850 --> 02:40:19,860 forget her first name but anyway she was 2848 02:40:27,260 --> 02:40:22,860 doing a presentation and she was playing 2849 02:40:29,000 --> 02:40:27,270 some some Indian type of Congo stuff on 2850 02:40:32,810 --> 02:40:29,010 stage you know after her presentation 2851 02:40:34,130 --> 02:40:32,820 and I'm standing in the back standing 2852 02:40:36,290 --> 02:40:34,140 room only at this conference it was 2853 02:40:37,850 --> 02:40:36,300 really pretty good conference she was it 2854 02:40:40,700 --> 02:40:37,860 massive there's probably hundred fifty 2855 02:40:42,770 --> 02:40:40,710 people now but it was interesting I've 2856 02:40:44,990 --> 02:40:42,780 learned in my travels is these different 2857 02:40:46,670 --> 02:40:45,000 locations you get you get a do you get a 2858 02:40:49,250 --> 02:40:46,680 different kind of blend of people and 2859 02:40:53,570 --> 02:40:49,260 the sedona arizona type conferences you 2860 02:40:55,130 --> 02:40:53,580 get a lot of kind of spiritual you know 2861 02:40:56,420 --> 02:40:55,140 i don't even know the right word to put 2862 02:40:58,160 --> 02:40:56,430 it but there's just a different kind of 2863 02:40:59,900 --> 02:40:58,170 flavor and a different kind of energy to 2864 02:41:01,250 --> 02:40:59,910 some of these speakers and the people 2865 02:41:02,840 --> 02:41:01,260 that go to these conferences so i'm 2866 02:41:06,710 --> 02:41:02,850 we're standing in the back room 2867 02:41:08,360 --> 02:41:06,720 danny Nessus used an roth and we're just 2868 02:41:09,740 --> 02:41:08,370 kind of looking around the room and you 2869 02:41:13,100 --> 02:41:09,750 know and this lady's playing her music 2870 02:41:14,660 --> 02:41:13,110 and then she goes look over there when I 2871 02:41:17,719 --> 02:41:14,670 go where she was over there and I looked 2872 02:41:20,330 --> 02:41:17,729 to my left and there's this this lady 2873 02:41:26,060 --> 02:41:20,340 very probably in her early 20s I would 2874 02:41:29,810 --> 02:41:26,070 say very petite blond hair her hair was 2875 02:41:31,550 --> 02:41:29,820 really very thin and kind of kind of it 2876 02:41:34,190 --> 02:41:31,560 didn't look healthy it looks kind of 2877 02:41:37,370 --> 02:41:34,200 stringy but it was she was beautiful she 2878 02:41:39,260 --> 02:41:37,380 was only maybe five feet tall and she's 2879 02:41:41,450 --> 02:41:39,270 doing this dance where she's got her 2880 02:41:43,490 --> 02:41:41,460 hands and her arms moving above her head 2881 02:41:45,200 --> 02:41:43,500 and she's moving her body around and it 2882 02:41:48,110 --> 02:41:45,210 wasn't that's all or anything but it was 2883 02:41:49,290 --> 02:41:48,120 just I've never ever seen anybody move 2884 02:41:51,631 --> 02:41:49,300 like that 2885 02:41:54,690 --> 02:41:51,641 and she goes she goes Suzanne goes that 2886 02:41:57,421 --> 02:41:54,700 she's a hybrid I go but she goes look at 2887 02:41:59,640 --> 02:41:57,431 her and I'm staring at her and then she 2888 02:42:01,950 --> 02:41:59,650 looks the lady looks over at us in her 2889 02:42:05,580 --> 02:42:01,960 and she had these blue eyes that were 2890 02:42:07,860 --> 02:42:05,590 probably 50% larger in terms of the 2891 02:42:10,200 --> 02:42:07,870 orbital structure of eyeballs than your 2892 02:42:12,631 --> 02:42:10,210 standard human eyeballs and I thought 2893 02:42:14,100 --> 02:42:12,641 maybe she is a hybrid I'm thinking you 2894 02:42:15,390 --> 02:42:14,110 know you're not kidding right so I 2895 02:42:17,580 --> 02:42:15,400 usually think this lady's eye but she 2896 02:42:20,730 --> 02:42:17,590 goes like I just know she is I can feel 2897 02:42:23,580 --> 02:42:20,740 it so so we're watching her dance and 2898 02:42:25,500 --> 02:42:23,590 then the song ends and I you know me I 2899 02:42:27,091 --> 02:42:25,510 got to talk to this lady I got it I got 2900 02:42:29,671 --> 02:42:27,101 to go up and figure out what the deal is 2901 02:42:32,160 --> 02:42:29,681 with this lady so she walks outside I 2902 02:42:33,720 --> 02:42:32,170 mean in the little you know waiting area 2903 02:42:36,870 --> 02:42:33,730 after the conference kind of been a 2904 02:42:38,430 --> 02:42:36,880 little break time and I walked up to her 2905 02:42:40,200 --> 02:42:38,440 and I didn't remember the questions I 2906 02:42:43,381 --> 02:42:40,210 asked her because I was kind of a I was 2907 02:42:45,870 --> 02:42:43,391 kind of in awe because she just looked 2908 02:42:47,640 --> 02:42:45,880 very unique and I remember I asked her 2909 02:42:51,540 --> 02:42:47,650 where she's from she said she was from 2910 02:42:53,280 --> 02:42:51,550 Los Angeles and and I was asking her 2911 02:42:55,711 --> 02:42:53,290 these questions and she was just giving 2912 02:42:57,841 --> 02:42:55,721 me these answers that were almost like 2913 02:43:00,150 --> 02:42:57,851 it just didn't feel like they were 2914 02:43:02,461 --> 02:43:00,160 flowing in a natural normal way it was 2915 02:43:05,430 --> 02:43:02,471 really strange and so then this guy 2916 02:43:07,051 --> 02:43:05,440 walks up and it turns out this guy that 2917 02:43:09,470 --> 02:43:07,061 walked up I just brought her to the 2918 02:43:11,910 --> 02:43:09,480 conference and he was kind of like 2919 02:43:14,400 --> 02:43:11,920 listening to us talk and kind of like 2920 02:43:15,360 --> 02:43:14,410 almost like protecting her so I was 2921 02:43:17,640 --> 02:43:15,370 started to go into my little 2922 02:43:19,500 --> 02:43:17,650 investigation though just very carefully 2923 02:43:23,280 --> 02:43:19,510 trying to probe and because this lady 2924 02:43:26,100 --> 02:43:23,290 was different and I had to bet I would 2925 02:43:28,020 --> 02:43:26,110 say that woman was a hybrid because she 2926 02:43:29,671 --> 02:43:28,030 they left after that it was almost like 2927 02:43:31,620 --> 02:43:29,681 they didn't want anybody to really know 2928 02:43:34,381 --> 02:43:31,630 talk to this woman he was trying to 2929 02:43:35,940 --> 02:43:34,391 protect her and I was kind of bummed 2930 02:43:37,770 --> 02:43:35,950 because I was hoping that you know the 2931 02:43:39,360 --> 02:43:37,780 next day I was gonna get to see her 2932 02:43:42,961 --> 02:43:39,370 again and maybe try to ask her more 2933 02:43:45,390 --> 02:43:42,971 questions but anyway I just I just think 2934 02:43:46,860 --> 02:43:45,400 this hybrid thing is real I'm just and I 2935 02:43:49,131 --> 02:43:46,870 think that they've been around for a 2936 02:43:51,690 --> 02:43:49,141 while I actually think that there's a 2937 02:43:53,610 --> 02:43:51,700 hybrid humans on on earth right now 2938 02:43:56,640 --> 02:43:53,620 walking amongst us I don't know if I'm 2939 02:43:59,091 --> 02:43:56,650 gonna go as far as the guy that she was 2940 02:44:02,220 --> 02:43:59,101 referring to that David - dr. Jacobs 2941 02:44:03,030 --> 02:44:02,230 maybe maybe not I mean but when you see 2942 02:44:04,740 --> 02:44:03,040 something like 2943 02:44:06,630 --> 02:44:04,750 and the experience talking to somebody 2944 02:44:09,000 --> 02:44:06,640 like that you it makes you stop and 2945 02:44:10,519 --> 02:44:09,010 think well maybe this is true and then 2946 02:44:12,450 --> 02:44:10,529 you hear somebody like barber lamp 2947 02:44:14,700 --> 02:44:12,460 describe her research and her 2948 02:44:16,620 --> 02:44:14,710 experiences you know the pieces start to 2949 02:44:18,690 --> 02:44:16,630 come together and some of these stories 2950 02:44:20,940 --> 02:44:18,700 started that at first when I first heard 2951 02:44:22,559 --> 02:44:20,950 these stories about come on now but then 2952 02:44:25,230 --> 02:44:22,569 they become more plausible and then they 2953 02:44:28,170 --> 02:44:25,240 become more possible and so I don't know 2954 02:44:29,910 --> 02:44:28,180 it's just really grateful if you live to 2955 02:44:32,070 --> 02:44:29,920 have the opportunity to me call you guys 2956 02:44:33,900 --> 02:44:32,080 and experience all these conferences and 2957 02:44:36,630 --> 02:44:33,910 listen to all your shows because Lily 2958 02:44:38,969 --> 02:44:36,640 and my mind and my is expanding and can 2959 02:44:40,530 --> 02:44:38,979 I'm constantly learning and one thing I 2960 02:44:43,110 --> 02:44:40,540 have learned is some of the things that 2961 02:44:44,880 --> 02:44:43,120 I believe a year or two ago I've kind of 2962 02:44:47,550 --> 02:44:44,890 gone in a little bit of another 2963 02:44:49,260 --> 02:44:47,560 direction where I feel like I just 2964 02:44:51,150 --> 02:44:49,270 suggest that everybody try to keep as a 2965 02:44:52,920 --> 02:44:51,160 open mind as possible about some of 2966 02:44:55,139 --> 02:44:52,930 these things because I might sound muddy 2967 02:44:56,639 --> 02:44:55,149 at first but some of this stuff I don't 2968 02:45:00,300 --> 02:44:56,649 think it's nutty at all 2969 02:45:03,240 --> 02:45:00,310 we had so much fun without you do you 2970 02:45:06,510 --> 02:45:03,250 miss it you missed it all man you miss 2971 02:45:11,030 --> 02:45:06,520 it of the the stories The Fader not the 2972 02:45:14,370 --> 02:45:11,040 private parties man this was the one 2973 02:45:18,570 --> 02:45:14,380 this was the one this was the one 2974 02:45:20,429 --> 02:45:18,580 conference that out of everything that I 2975 02:45:22,070 --> 02:45:20,439 have hung out with you with over the 2976 02:45:25,940 --> 02:45:22,080 years this was the one 2977 02:45:31,769 --> 02:45:25,950 okay I'll share this with you you ready 2978 02:45:36,510 --> 02:45:31,779 okay so I'm out in front of the Hilton 2979 02:45:41,130 --> 02:45:36,520 Hotel and I meet the night before this 2980 02:45:43,230 --> 02:45:41,140 this lady had offered are you moving 2981 02:45:47,280 --> 02:45:43,240 your phone around don't move it keep it 2982 02:45:50,969 --> 02:45:47,290 still okay okay cuz that's really loud 2983 02:45:55,530 --> 02:45:50,979 okay no you know okay all right that's 2984 02:45:57,990 --> 02:45:55,540 that's probably a good idea so I the 2985 02:46:01,469 --> 02:45:58,000 night before this lady officer offers us 2986 02:46:04,920 --> 02:46:01,479 her table her corner because she saw the 2987 02:46:06,960 --> 02:46:04,930 fader not standing there and we ended up 2988 02:46:10,320 --> 02:46:06,970 not taking her table but the next day 2989 02:46:11,550 --> 02:46:10,330 she was outside and she came up and I 2990 02:46:14,099 --> 02:46:11,560 thanked her I said you know thank you 2991 02:46:15,360 --> 02:46:14,109 for offering us that you know we you 2992 02:46:16,320 --> 02:46:15,370 know wounds have been anyway so I 2993 02:46:20,450 --> 02:46:16,330 started talking to 2994 02:46:25,410 --> 02:46:20,460 and she tells me she pulls up this 2995 02:46:31,710 --> 02:46:25,420 picture of herself in her phone of her 2996 02:46:36,300 --> 02:46:31,720 square pupils and I'm looking now we're 2997 02:46:38,849 --> 02:46:36,310 up at the booth I'm sitting at the table 2998 02:46:44,040 --> 02:46:38,859 at the booth and I'm talking to her 2999 02:46:48,540 --> 02:46:44,050 looking at this picture and Sid Goldberg 3000 02:46:51,870 --> 02:46:48,550 steps up and and and he's joining in on 3001 02:46:56,280 --> 02:46:51,880 our conversation and I show him the 3002 02:46:57,900 --> 02:46:56,290 picture of her square pupils and as he's 3003 02:46:59,880 --> 02:46:57,910 looking at the picture I'm looking at 3004 02:47:02,780 --> 02:46:59,890 her I'm sitting down she's standing in 3005 02:47:06,290 --> 02:47:02,790 front of me and I looked up and I said 3006 02:47:09,719 --> 02:47:06,300 you're your pupils are square right now 3007 02:47:12,630 --> 02:47:09,729 and she goes what and I said they are 3008 02:47:15,420 --> 02:47:12,640 and Sid goes oh man they are and he 3009 02:47:21,270 --> 02:47:15,430 grabs his phone and takes a picture 3010 02:47:23,580 --> 02:47:21,280 close-up of her face and and she flips 3011 02:47:28,230 --> 02:47:23,590 it around and shows her her pupils are 3012 02:47:36,000 --> 02:47:28,240 square dude square not like kind of 3013 02:47:40,200 --> 02:47:36,010 square square and then he took another 3014 02:47:44,820 --> 02:47:40,210 picture with a flash and when he did 3015 02:47:49,469 --> 02:47:44,830 that her pupils went round just like 3016 02:47:51,750 --> 02:47:49,479 that and now she sent me I've got I've 3017 02:47:54,780 --> 02:47:51,760 got her pictures I've got I've got I've 3018 02:47:57,630 --> 02:47:54,790 got them I and and all I've said send me 3019 02:48:00,540 --> 02:47:57,640 the one that he took in front of us but 3020 02:48:05,429 --> 02:48:00,550 it was one of the now I'm telling you my 3021 02:48:05,849 --> 02:48:05,439 mind gets blown very rarely that freaked 3022 02:48:10,139 --> 02:48:05,859 me out 3023 02:48:11,700 --> 02:48:10,149 first time I looked in the face of a 3024 02:48:14,670 --> 02:48:11,710 baby goat you know and you see those 3025 02:48:16,349 --> 02:48:14,680 rectangle pupils it just doesn't you 3026 02:48:18,929 --> 02:48:16,359 know it just doesn't look normal 3027 02:48:22,740 --> 02:48:18,939 we're used to round pupils and you know 3028 02:48:25,290 --> 02:48:22,750 humans look at other humans eyes and we 3029 02:48:27,330 --> 02:48:25,300 have adapted to that through evolution 3030 02:48:28,440 --> 02:48:27,340 for years and and that's how we read 3031 02:48:30,270 --> 02:48:28,450 people and 3032 02:48:33,660 --> 02:48:30,280 and we look at the beauty of the eye and 3033 02:48:36,000 --> 02:48:33,670 and and we know what to expect when you 3034 02:48:38,550 --> 02:48:36,010 see a square pupil that throws you off 3035 02:48:40,950 --> 02:48:38,560 your game and I'm telling you Eric it 3036 02:48:50,310 --> 02:48:40,960 was unbelievable 3037 02:48:55,890 --> 02:48:52,860 the I don't want to get into too much of 3038 02:48:58,320 --> 02:48:55,900 the personal side of the story because 3039 02:49:02,250 --> 02:48:58,330 that's hers I don't have that permission 3040 02:49:05,070 --> 02:49:02,260 but the way that she found out about it 3041 02:49:06,240 --> 02:49:05,080 the first time was this was just three 3042 02:49:09,240 --> 02:49:06,250 years ago 3043 02:49:11,760 --> 02:49:09,250 and she was with a friend and he was 3044 02:49:14,670 --> 02:49:11,770 looking at her and he's like you're your 3045 02:49:16,140 --> 02:49:14,680 pupils are square and she's like what 3046 02:49:18,540 --> 02:49:16,150 and that's when that picture was taken 3047 02:49:23,550 --> 02:49:18,550 the one that she showed me on her phone 3048 02:49:25,950 --> 02:49:23,560 and that before that she had didn't know 3049 02:49:28,530 --> 02:49:25,960 you know and they may have been going 3050 02:49:33,000 --> 02:49:28,540 square and nobody noticed it I don't 3051 02:49:35,490 --> 02:49:33,010 know she doesn't know either and she was 3052 02:49:37,440 --> 02:49:35,500 pretty surprised when I said to her at 3053 02:49:40,260 --> 02:49:37,450 that moment I said your pupil square 3054 02:49:43,260 --> 02:49:40,270 I mean I'm 2 or 3 feet from her and I'm 3055 02:49:47,760 --> 02:49:43,270 looking up at her and they were square 3056 02:49:50,130 --> 02:49:47,770 and it it kind of blew her mind for a 3057 02:49:54,900 --> 02:49:50,140 moment because she wasn't expecting me 3058 02:49:57,060 --> 02:49:54,910 to say that Wow yeah it is what you got 3059 02:49:58,860 --> 02:49:57,070 any other calls on hold I got one more 3060 02:50:00,420 --> 02:49:58,870 quick thing to plug real fast I'll get 3061 02:50:03,179 --> 02:50:00,430 off the line if you got another call are 3062 02:50:05,850 --> 02:50:03,189 you you're gonna plug is something well 3063 02:50:12,060 --> 02:50:05,860 probably a plug no you got the conscious 3064 02:50:14,670 --> 02:50:12,070 the CIT D right and June if anybody's 3065 02:50:17,550 --> 02:50:14,680 able to get the Sedona Arizona next 3066 02:50:19,230 --> 02:50:17,560 month on the 19th and the 20th there 3067 02:50:21,390 --> 02:50:19,240 Ross is having another conference called 3068 02:50:24,030 --> 02:50:21,400 beyond the matrix and it's going to be 3069 02:50:26,130 --> 02:50:24,040 phenomenal so it's a Tuesday and a 3070 02:50:27,330 --> 02:50:26,140 Wednesday which is kind of odd and but I 3071 02:50:30,090 --> 02:50:27,340 know it might be hard for some people 3072 02:50:31,800 --> 02:50:30,100 but I just think that if you really if 3073 02:50:33,210 --> 02:50:31,810 you can get out there anybody listening 3074 02:50:34,260 --> 02:50:33,220 to Sedona you're gonna meet some 3075 02:50:35,490 --> 02:50:34,270 interesting people and hear some 3076 02:50:36,510 --> 02:50:35,500 interesting stories that you don't 3077 02:50:38,190 --> 02:50:36,520 always hear at some of these other 3078 02:50:40,980 --> 02:50:38,200 conferences so I just want to plug that 3079 02:50:42,059 --> 02:50:40,990 real all right right on Eric and we'll 3080 02:50:44,000 --> 02:50:42,069 see you a contact 3081 02:50:46,590 --> 02:50:44,010 in the desert man couple of months oh 3082 02:50:49,139 --> 02:50:46,600 okay buddy take care take my call 3083 02:50:53,159 --> 02:50:49,149 have a good night Eric Eric awakening 3084 02:50:58,710 --> 02:50:53,169 man right there and he's a little under 3085 02:51:00,420 --> 02:50:58,720 the weather black goo black goo I don't 3086 02:51:01,979 --> 02:51:00,430 even want to know I don't even wanna 3087 02:51:04,859 --> 02:51:01,989 know what that means 3088 02:51:06,869 --> 02:51:04,869 black goo Eric feel better feel better 3089 02:51:08,670 --> 02:51:06,879 my man let's go back to the phones 3090 02:51:13,229 --> 02:51:08,680 hi you're live on fade to black who's 3091 02:51:15,359 --> 02:51:13,239 calling hi my name is Jim I'm a longtime 3092 02:51:16,829 --> 02:51:15,369 fan this the first time I called I got 3093 02:51:19,469 --> 02:51:16,839 through it yeah you didn't get through 3094 02:51:21,239 --> 02:51:19,479 Jim and you got through because I see 3095 02:51:24,719 --> 02:51:21,249 here that you're a first-time caller 3096 02:51:29,599 --> 02:51:24,729 and first-time callers always go to the 3097 02:51:32,250 --> 02:51:29,609 front of the line right on what I well 3098 02:51:33,689 --> 02:51:32,260 well I have a question for you I can't 3099 02:51:35,579 --> 02:51:33,699 believe I could ask you this I was just 3100 02:51:37,319 --> 02:51:35,589 listening to the show as usual and 3101 02:51:39,329 --> 02:51:37,329 researching on the internet and arguing 3102 02:51:40,590 --> 02:51:39,339 people on message boards and the called 3103 02:51:44,130 --> 02:51:40,600 Trinity Church and see what he thinks 3104 02:51:45,929 --> 02:51:44,140 do you think UFO craft I have the 3105 02:51:47,699 --> 02:51:45,939 capability based on their speed physics 3106 02:51:49,710 --> 02:51:47,709 all that from what you've heard you know 3107 02:51:53,719 --> 02:51:49,720 a million times more than me could time 3108 02:52:01,309 --> 02:51:53,729 travel of course yeah of course yeah 3109 02:52:04,290 --> 02:52:01,319 yeah and in effect any craft that is 3110 02:52:06,719 --> 02:52:04,300 approaching the speed of light but 3111 02:52:08,699 --> 02:52:06,729 certainly it cheeves the speed of light 3112 02:52:13,710 --> 02:52:08,709 or as approaching the speed of light is 3113 02:52:17,010 --> 02:52:13,720 time traveling so Jim look at it this 3114 02:52:22,460 --> 02:52:17,020 way okay so my name is Jim your name is 3115 02:52:25,949 --> 02:52:22,470 Jim so the two gems you and I are on our 3116 02:52:29,729 --> 02:52:25,959 starship cruiser right and and and we 3117 02:52:33,149 --> 02:52:29,739 and we take off from Earth and we fly 3118 02:52:36,210 --> 02:52:33,159 depends on the speed and so forth but 3119 02:52:38,399 --> 02:52:36,220 let's just say if you get to the speed 3120 02:52:40,260 --> 02:52:38,409 of light time stand still you know I 3121 02:52:41,550 --> 02:52:40,270 mean it's a different aspect of 3122 02:52:44,189 --> 02:52:41,560 everything but let's say we're just 3123 02:52:47,010 --> 02:52:44,199 getting close to the speed of light like 3124 02:52:49,619 --> 02:52:47,020 right 99 percent or 90 percent 99 3125 02:52:54,850 --> 02:52:49,629 percent and we take off from earth and 3126 02:52:57,910 --> 02:52:54,860 we fly in one direction for a year 3127 02:53:01,810 --> 02:52:57,920 okay and at the end of that year we make 3128 02:53:05,440 --> 02:53:01,820 a u-turn and now we fly at the speed of 3129 02:53:11,920 --> 02:53:05,450 light back to earth okay are you with me 3130 02:53:16,780 --> 02:53:11,930 yes now we get to earth everybody that 3131 02:53:21,400 --> 02:53:16,790 we know and love is dead why because 3132 02:53:23,560 --> 02:53:21,410 it's 100 years in the future you and I 3133 02:53:25,511 --> 02:53:23,570 it could be 200 years in the future 3134 02:53:32,070 --> 02:53:25,521 depends on how fast we were going 3135 02:53:36,970 --> 02:53:32,080 but you and I have only aged two years 3136 02:53:41,350 --> 02:53:36,980 earth is a hundred years so what would 3137 02:53:49,470 --> 02:53:41,360 we be we will be time travelers from the 3138 02:53:54,820 --> 02:53:49,480 past right Yeah right now yes this is 3139 02:53:58,120 --> 02:53:54,830 this is stated as direct as I am 3140 02:54:02,400 --> 02:53:58,130 speaking to you in ein time in 3141 02:54:06,280 --> 02:54:02,410 Einstein's special relativity theory and 3142 02:54:07,000 --> 02:54:06,290 so when you think about it in those 3143 02:54:10,560 --> 02:54:07,010 terms 3144 02:54:15,430 --> 02:54:10,570 yes is time travel possible 3145 02:54:18,490 --> 02:54:15,440 absolutely the numbers say it is so okay 3146 02:54:21,190 --> 02:54:18,500 and that's that that's it now now now 3147 02:54:26,460 --> 02:54:21,200 there's another aspect of this Jim which 3148 02:54:31,480 --> 02:54:26,470 is could spaceships be a time machine in 3149 02:54:33,850 --> 02:54:31,490 other words to selectively choose a date 3150 02:54:35,830 --> 02:54:33,860 and just go there where you and I don't 3151 02:54:37,420 --> 02:54:35,840 have to fly for a year and then turn 3152 02:54:41,230 --> 02:54:37,430 around and fly back for another year and 3153 02:54:44,320 --> 02:54:41,240 come back to earth to time travel but to 3154 02:54:49,060 --> 02:54:44,330 jump on a some kind of machine and go 3155 02:54:51,700 --> 02:54:49,070 let's go to the year you know zero right 3156 02:54:54,730 --> 02:54:51,710 let's go to work yeah yeah let's go to 3157 02:54:59,080 --> 02:54:54,740 33 AD and see Jesus on the cross right 3158 02:55:01,840 --> 02:54:59,090 that's it that's another situation all 3159 02:55:06,520 --> 02:55:01,850 together also would take a lot of energy 3160 02:55:07,820 --> 02:55:06,530 to do that but is going backwards in 3161 02:55:12,860 --> 02:55:07,830 time 3162 02:55:15,801 --> 02:55:12,870 that's a tough one going into the future 3163 02:55:18,770 --> 02:55:15,811 is easy I just told you how easy it is 3164 02:55:20,480 --> 02:55:18,780 to go into the future right okay so how 3165 02:55:22,100 --> 02:55:20,490 far in the future do you want to go do 3166 02:55:25,011 --> 02:55:22,110 you want to go ten thousand years in the 3167 02:55:27,590 --> 02:55:25,021 future approach the speed of light fly a 3168 02:55:29,720 --> 02:55:27,600 little bit longer and then come back and 3169 02:55:31,790 --> 02:55:29,730 and you'll be ten thousand years in the 3170 02:55:33,380 --> 02:55:31,800 future and and you are a time traveler 3171 02:55:36,261 --> 02:55:33,390 but going backwards in the other 3172 02:55:41,060 --> 02:55:36,271 direction it's a little bit that's a 3173 02:55:45,560 --> 02:55:41,070 little bit tougher but I would say that 3174 02:55:49,130 --> 02:55:45,570 lets us I would say this that if you and 3175 02:55:50,600 --> 02:55:49,140 I did that two-year trip or maybe we did 3176 02:55:52,430 --> 02:55:50,610 what if we did it for ten years or 3177 02:55:55,430 --> 02:55:52,440 twenty years we come back in it's five 3178 02:55:59,150 --> 02:55:55,440 thousand years in the future don't you 3179 02:56:01,600 --> 02:55:59,160 think that us in the future would have 3180 02:56:06,470 --> 02:56:01,610 conquered time travel and time machines 3181 02:56:09,020 --> 02:56:06,480 sure right and so what would you and I 3182 02:56:12,200 --> 02:56:09,030 do at ten thousand years in the future 3183 02:56:14,120 --> 02:56:12,210 when we got back well you and I would go 3184 02:56:15,380 --> 02:56:14,130 okay the earth is cool this is pretty 3185 02:56:17,900 --> 02:56:15,390 cool ten thousand years in the future 3186 02:56:20,720 --> 02:56:17,910 this is amazing okay now we want to go 3187 02:56:22,670 --> 02:56:20,730 back to 2019 and hang out with our 3188 02:56:26,000 --> 02:56:22,680 family and tell them tell them what we 3189 02:56:28,160 --> 02:56:26,010 just saw I would think that's what I 3190 02:56:31,580 --> 02:56:28,170 would want to do I would want to be that 3191 02:56:38,030 --> 02:56:31,590 way right I would want to be that guy so 3192 02:56:41,990 --> 02:56:38,040 why hasn't it happened right it's a very 3193 02:56:46,640 --> 02:56:42,000 we it's you know and every question that 3194 02:56:47,420 --> 02:56:46,650 you throw out you never know maybe I'm a 3195 02:56:49,940 --> 02:56:47,430 time truck 3196 02:56:51,680 --> 02:56:49,950 Jim maybe you are messing with me and 3197 02:56:54,220 --> 02:56:51,690 you're from the future and you're just 3198 02:56:57,740 --> 02:56:54,230 testing me right now to see what I know 3199 02:56:58,310 --> 02:56:57,750 exactly yes a plus though you got there 3200 02:57:03,170 --> 02:56:58,320 you go 3201 02:57:04,160 --> 02:57:03,180 hey Jim where you calling from is it 3202 02:57:06,500 --> 02:57:04,170 snowing up there 3203 02:57:08,540 --> 02:57:06,510 I heard it's snowing we got a winter 3204 02:57:10,250 --> 02:57:08,550 storm warning it's supposed to kick in 3205 02:57:14,450 --> 02:57:10,260 like 10 o'clock supposed to start 3206 02:57:16,070 --> 02:57:14,460 snowing yeah but it hasn't yet it did 3207 02:57:18,051 --> 02:57:16,080 last night it's gonna melt it away but 3208 02:57:20,220 --> 02:57:18,061 yeah I've got a lot of friends that are 3209 02:57:22,860 --> 02:57:20,230 posting the pictures in real 3210 02:57:25,291 --> 02:57:22,870 time of the snow going down right now so 3211 02:57:27,900 --> 02:57:25,301 it looks like it's heading your 3212 02:57:30,631 --> 02:57:27,910 direction it's a lot too I mean it's not 3213 02:57:33,261 --> 02:57:30,641 like a little little dusting you got 3214 02:57:37,020 --> 02:57:33,271 some stones over here way yeah no right 3215 02:57:38,671 --> 02:57:37,030 thank you so much thank you this was 3216 02:57:40,440 --> 02:57:38,681 amazing and an honor you're so 3217 02:57:43,110 --> 02:57:40,450 incredible thank you thank you Jim don't 3218 02:57:45,451 --> 02:57:43,120 be a stranger I will not eat you will 3219 02:57:48,240 --> 02:57:45,461 I'll talk to you love first-time callers 3220 02:57:50,041 --> 02:57:48,250 always remember first-time callers front 3221 02:57:52,591 --> 02:57:50,051 of the line first-time caller 3222 02:57:55,890 --> 02:57:52,601 no matter who is on hold front of the 3223 02:57:58,110 --> 02:57:55,900 line I enjoy that so much I want to 3224 02:58:01,411 --> 02:57:58,120 thank Barbara lamb tonight what an 3225 02:58:03,690 --> 02:58:01,421 amazing conversation and and she's so 3226 02:58:07,291 --> 02:58:03,700 bright so honest and so insightful and 3227 02:58:09,600 --> 02:58:07,301 she's got so much research that she 3228 02:58:12,661 --> 02:58:09,610 continues to share with all of us and 3229 02:58:15,211 --> 02:58:12,671 she certainly did that tonight of course 3230 02:58:16,251 --> 02:58:15,221 Eric awakening man coming in out of 3231 02:58:19,051 --> 02:58:16,261 nowhere 3232 02:58:22,440 --> 02:58:19,061 that was a surprise call thank you Jim 3233 02:58:25,591 --> 02:58:22,450 up in Oregon betablox executive producer 3234 02:58:28,051 --> 02:58:25,601 is Rita Kumari on shows produced by Hill 3235 02:58:30,451 --> 02:58:28,061 J palm Renae Dennison Bob announcers are 3236 02:58:34,140 --> 02:58:30,461 Steve harder Jean Patou 'mark Dee Cove 3237 02:58:37,621 --> 02:58:34,150 our webmaster is drew the key music doug 3238 02:58:40,711 --> 02:58:37,631 aldrich intro space boys face boy music 3239 02:58:45,591 --> 02:58:40,721 calm fade to black is produced by 3240 02:58:48,480 --> 02:58:45,601 kjsurya network of syndication is kg ra 3241 02:58:50,820 --> 02:58:48,490 the planet whose broadcasts on the 3242 02:58:52,890 --> 02:58:50,830 copyright of 2019 by fade to black in 3243 02:58:55,291 --> 02:58:52,900 the game change network they cannot be 3244 02:58:56,591 --> 02:58:55,301 rebroadcast downloaded copied or use 3245 02:58:58,930 --> 02:58:56,601 anywhere in the known universe 3246 02:59:01,930 --> 02:58:58,940 without written permission from fade to 3247 02:59:04,240 --> 02:59:01,940 black of the game-changer Network I'm 3248 02:59:08,051 --> 02:59:04,250 Yours Timmy Church follow me on Twitter 3249 02:59:11,200 --> 02:59:08,061 had Jane Church radio until tomorrow 3250 02:59:17,620 --> 02:59:11,210 night surprise guest I want everybody to